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jungleguy 14-09-2012 08:43

Nano Sim?
 
I see the iPhone 5 has a Nano sim, I'm guessing Virgin Mobile don't do the Nano sim, am I right in thinking that seeming that they've only just started doing the micro sim I'll have to wait a while before they do the nano sim.

BenMcr 14-09-2012 10:56

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Yup, no phone VM offer needs a nano SIM, so it will be a while

7031 14-09-2012 22:04

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Hmm, time to start cutting up micro-SIMs? Both my iPhone and my iPad just have full sized SIMs that I cut down myself - the results weren't great but they work fine.

Peter_ 14-09-2012 22:50

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Here is a picture of the 3 sizes make of it what you will.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/09/36.jpg

Matth 16-09-2012 18:34

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Blimey, who's hairbrained idea was that!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_identity_module
Going from the "full size sim" - YES, they really WERE like a credit card size, to the current standard "mini Sim" was clearly a no brainer, and the full size is a dead standard unless you're a retro mobile collector.

The justification for even the "Micro" standard is questionable, and the Nano is just an excercise in making things difficult, just like having a new nonstandard accessory/power connector at a time when everybody should be using micro-USB.

Jayster 16-09-2012 19:31

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth (Post 35474910)
Blimey, who's hairbrained idea was that!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_identity_module
Going from the "full size sim" - YES, they really WERE like a credit card size, to the current standard "mini Sim" was clearly a no brainer, and the full size is a dead standard unless you're a retro mobile collector.

The justification for even the "Micro" standard is questionable, and the Nano is just an excercise in making things difficult, just like having a new nonstandard accessory/power connector at a time when everybody should be using micro-USB.

You can thank apple for the micro sim, but hopefully the nano sim should be adopted by all with the micro sim being forgotten about.

Peter_ 16-09-2012 19:57

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayster (Post 35474925)
You can thank apple for the micro sim, but hopefully the nano sim should be adopted by all with the nano sim being forgotten about.

Did you actually read that post as it does not make sense.

Jayster 16-09-2012 21:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35474929)
Did you actually read that post as it does not make sense.

Sorry, fixed now. It gets confusing when they start using these stupid names.

qasdfdsaq 17-09-2012 14:08

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Seeing as the current trend is to make phones bigger what's the freaking point of making pseudo-proprietary new shrunk SIM standards every blooming year or two?

It just serves to annoy those of us who have multiple phones and like to swap SIMs around - now I'll need to carry 3 adapters once people start adopting nano-SIMs, saving no bloody space whatsoever.

BenMcr 17-09-2012 14:27

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Although the phones get taller and wider, they are also getting thinner. So the small SIM cards allow more compact innards.

Same reason why most phones went from mini SD to micro SD - it's not just about the size of the card itself, but how big the holder is for it.

Hopefully though it'll stay fairly stable now, as the only next step I can seem them taking is an emulated SIM (which Apple did want to do at one point). Can't see the networks agreeing to that

Stephen 17-09-2012 14:48

Re: Nano Sim????
 
In the USA they still have one or two networks running on the CDMA system which doesn't require a SIM at all. A bit like the mobile networks here when first launched.

Nano SIM I agree is just another annoyance.

jono_h 17-09-2012 21:03

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35475071)
Although the phones get taller and wider, they are also getting thinner. So the small SIM cards allow more compact innards.

But the sim cards aren't getting any thinner, so a nano-sim won't help, and as said above phones are getting bigger, giving more space for the innards.

BenMcr 17-09-2012 21:12

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jono_h (Post 35475257)
But the sim cards aren't getting any thinner, so a nano-sim won't help, and as said above phones are getting bigger, giving more space for the innards.

True, but a small SIM and holder allows there to be more flexibility where within the available space it sits.

handset makers will want to have as little air within the phone as possible. Smaller components across the board help them do that

jono_h 18-09-2012 07:58

Re: Nano Sim????
 
And having a think about it, I can see your point about thinner; a smaller sim would allow another component to be slimmed down to fit into the space.

Sorry Ben!

BenMcr 18-09-2012 13:02

Re: Nano Sim????
 
Some interesting stuff about the nano SIM here http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/18/nano_sim/


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