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GrimUpNorth 16-08-2012 22:26

Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Might be old news to some, but el reg is reporting voip problems

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08...ware_ip_phone/

Cheers

Grim

Coffeeguy 16-08-2012 23:54

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Another reason why this heap of rubbish should be canned

kwikbreaks 17-08-2012 06:51

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
As mentioned in the Register article my Vonage phone works OK with the Superhub.

General Maximus 20-08-2012 06:33

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
it makes me laugh. Normally when a company gets negative publicity they kiss ass and try to save face but it looks like VM don't care at all. I was expecting a statement saying "we are aware of the problem and are working to resolve the issue asap"

Graham M 20-08-2012 09:16

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
My Polycom IP Phone is working fine

ferretuk 20-08-2012 12:22

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35465185)
it makes me laugh. Normally when a company gets negative publicity they kiss ass and try to save face but it looks like VM don't care at all. I was expecting a statement saying "we are aware of the problem and are working to resolve the issue asap"

Hmmm

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Register
VM spokesperson Assam Ahmed has told us that the firm is aware of a problem: "We are aware of issues with using VoIP and are looking into them."


General Maximus 20-08-2012 21:18

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
that is media speak for "yeah people have been moaning their asses off but we couldn't care less and we might get round to fixing it in the next firmware update and that will be whenever we feel like it".

If they were taking it seriously they would have fixed it by now.

kwikbreaks 20-08-2012 21:27

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35465614)
If they were taking it seriously they would have fixed it by now.

You are making the assumption that they actually have a clue how to fix such issues on the Superhub. History of fix times for other problems suggests that is a very big assumption.

Of course the cynic would suggest that as their phone charges are so high it isn't in their interests to have VOIP work.

The even bigger cynic might suggest it could equally be that their competence didn't stretch to screwing it up for all VOIP as, like I said earlier, mine works fine.

Stuart 20-08-2012 21:31

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35465614)
that is media speak for "yeah people have been moaning their asses off but we couldn't care less and we might get round to fixing it in the next firmware update and that will be whenever we feel like it".

If they were taking it seriously they would have fixed it by now.

So, how is "We are aware of issues with using VoIP and are looking into them." (which is what they said) any worse than "we are aware of the problem and are working to resolve the issue asap" (which is what you appear to think they should say)? Both are just vague statements that they are working on the problem.

Also, if they were taking it seriously, they wouldn't rush into a fix, then roll it out to millions (or at least hundreds of thousands) of users without spending time testing it.

jb66 20-08-2012 21:34

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35465626)
So, how is "We are aware of issues with using VoIP and are looking into them." (which is what they said) any worse than "we are aware of the problem and are working to resolve the issue asap" (which is what you appear to think they should say)? Both are just vague statements that they are working on the problem.

Also, if they were taking it seriously, they wouldn't rush into a fix, then roll it out to millions (or at least hundreds of thousands) of users without spending time testing it.

Like they did with r36 which is a complete success

kwikbreaks 20-08-2012 21:34

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35465626)
Also, if they were taking it seriously, they wouldn't rush into a fix, then roll it out to millions (or at least hundreds of thousands) of users without spending time testing it.

It would seem that they must have done just that with R36 as nobody was complaining about this problem before that was released. VOIP is hardly some fringe technology - given VM call charges I suspect a lot of customers must use it.

Stuart 20-08-2012 23:27

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35465628)
Like they did with r36 which is a complete success

Would you rather they rushed out a fix to this that broke something else because they didn't test it properly?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35465629)
It would seem that they must have done just that with R36 as nobody was complaining about this problem before that was released. VOIP is hardly some fringe technology - given VM call charges I suspect a lot of customers must use it.

No, VOIP isn't a fringe technology. It is,however, relatively complex, and not all implementations are entirely standard, which only makes it more complex. It's also worth pointing out that the article says the problem does not affect all VOIP networks.

VM do need to fix the problem, but it may not be as bad as some people here are saying.

General Maximus 21-08-2012 06:40

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35465626)
So, how is "We are aware of issues with using VoIP and are looking into them." (which is what they said) any worse than "we are aware of the problem and are working to resolve the issue asap" (which is what you appear to think they should say)? Both are just vague statements that they are working on the problem.

Because one is a "can't be arsed" statement and the other is a kiss ass glittery media statement to reassure the public and make them feel better.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35465626)
Also, if they were taking it seriously, they wouldn't rush into a fix

that's a joke, if they were taking their responsibilities seriously as an isp only offering 1 piece of cpe and weren't rushing things then we wouldnt have had all the problems with the shub we have had over the last 2 years

kwikbreaks 21-08-2012 09:39

Re: Virgin Media SuperHub 'upgrade' hangs up on IP phone punters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35465652)
.. it may not be as bad as some people here are saying.

Correct. I use VOIP and it isn't a problem at all for me.

What I do criticise is that VM don't seem to be very thorough with their firmware testing. This is far from the first Superhub firmware that has broken commonly used technologies.


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