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justasking92 28-07-2012 23:28

Virgin Fair use
 
Hello
Is there anyway you can tell if you have exceeded the download cap at peektime.. im on 60mb but it just randomly dropped to 30/6.. at this hour... i have been watching a 720p+ stream on twitch all day but I didint think that would cap me for those hours..
maybe a mod can look

This morning:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/9.png
Now:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/07/10.png

Guessing im capped at 50% for the next 5Hours right

>>>>>IM ON 60MB BUT THERES NO PREFIX<<<<<

---------- Post added at 22:28 ---------- Previous post was at 22:24 ----------

I also thought the fair usage only applied to Weekdays.. today is Saturday

crazyronnie 28-07-2012 23:32

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
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STM applies 7 days a week.

justasking92 28-07-2012 23:37

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
On there website it says
"We moderate the total volume of file sharing traffic on our network between 5pm and midnight on weekdays and midday and midnight on weekends"

But it doesnt say how much during weekends.. so confused

Synthetic 29-07-2012 00:28

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
The file sharing throttling is totally different to the STM that caps you if you download too much (any traffic) in a certain time period

justasking92 29-07-2012 00:37

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic (Post 35457452)
The file sharing throttling is totally different to the STM that caps you if you download too much (any traffic) in a certain time period

What do you mean by this :)?
And should my speeds be back to 60MB in the next 5 hours like it says on the site :)?

Telly_ 29-07-2012 00:40

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
You may find you get a 50% price reduction as you're only getting 50% of your speeds.

justasking92 29-07-2012 01:15

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457456)
You may find you get a 50% price reduction as you're only getting 50% of your speeds.

:(
this only has happend today once but i have used it alot but i dont understand there Fair use on weekends.

---------- Post added 29-07-2012 at 00:15 ---------- Previous post was 28-07-2012 at 23:41 ----------

Really hope it goes back been a while now ..really dont understand weekend fair usage

jb66 29-07-2012 09:03

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
See post 2

General Maximus 29-07-2012 09:47

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justasking92 (Post 35457453)
What do you mean by this :)?
And should my speeds be back to 60MB in the next 5 hours like it says on the site :)?

The limits imposed by the stm policy are for total volume traffic which apply everyday of the week regardless of what you download. They will affect either your downstream or upstream though, not both unless you have exceeded both limits. As an example, if you download a tonne of stuff your downstream will go to 50% for 5 hours but your upstream will stay at 100% unless you upload a tonne of stuff as well.

P2P throttling/shaping or whatever you want to call it is completely different. There are no restriction on torrent traffic/newsgroups etc apart from those imposed by the stm policy but during peak hours they actively throttle p2p traffic by flagging it as low priority on the network. Basically during busy periods like today where everyone is on the internet doing stuff if you decide you want to torrent all day you arent going to get your full speed. Everyone's youtubing and everything else gets priority and whatever juice is left on the line is what you get which can piddly amount like 100k/sec. It is a fair policy though because most evenings I can still get ~7mb/sec on torrents and on Friday evening I pretty much got full speed which I was really impressed with. You can hammer it all you want though and you'll still get hit with stm once you hit that theshold.

Hugh 29-07-2012 09:47

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457456)
You may find you get a 50% price reduction as you're only getting 50% of your speeds.

Not according to the T&C'S - but then, you and facts have, at best, a tangential relationship....;)

vmfriend 29-07-2012 10:31

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457456)
You may find you get a 50% price reduction as you're only getting 50% of your speeds.

Incorrect if they have breached the limits imposed by VM

kwikbreaks 29-07-2012 10:59

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Maybe the post was missing a :) ?

justasking92 30-07-2012 16:49

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Ok i understand now
In the Earliy AM mornings are there any limits on download or can you download at will then?

kwikbreaks 30-07-2012 17:32

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Downstream STM applies at the times in the chart 10:00am - 9:00pm and upstream 3:00pm - 8:00pm. Each and every day. Outside those hours STM does not apply.

justasking92 30-07-2012 17:58

Re: Virgin Fair use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35457965)
Downstream STM applies at the times in the chart 10:00am - 9:00pm and upstream 3:00pm - 8:00pm. Each and every day. Outside those hours STM does not apply.

Awesome
i guess ill download all my steam games during the morning then :)
thanks alot


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