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Russ 19-06-2012 11:28

VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...ver-801387612/

Interesting if it turns out to be true.

denphone 19-06-2012 11:29

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35443566)
http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...ver-801387612/

Interesting if it turns out to be true.

l just cannot see it happening Russ.

Russ 19-06-2012 11:37

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Why not?

denphone 19-06-2012 11:41

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35443583)
Why not?

Because we have heard this all before if l rightly remember and like before it was based on groundless speculation with no true facts to back it up.

Russ 19-06-2012 11:44

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Have you read the article? VM is now in a healthy financial position and EE are looking to expand their acquisitions. I see this as perfect expansion for them.

denphone 19-06-2012 11:47

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35443586)
Have you read the article? VM is now in a healthy financial position and EE are looking to expand their acquisitions. I see this as perfect expansion for them.

While l respect your opinion Russ l would be very surprised if anything came of this but then again l am more wrong in most matters then l am right.:)

Stuart 19-06-2012 12:37

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
If my limited experience with Orange's customer service is anything to go by (and several friends have had similar experience), this forum will get a a lot busier as VM's customer service is a model of help and efficiency compared to that of Orange.

Maggy 19-06-2012 13:34

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35443612)
If my limited experience with Orange's customer service is anything to go by (and several friends have had similar experience), this forum will get a a lot busier as VM's customer service is a model of help and efficiency compared to that of Orange.

:tu:

v0id 19-06-2012 14:41

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35443583)
Why not?

Because the Competition Commission may put a stop to it perhaps?

Telly_ 19-06-2012 14:53

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
This could definately happen.

KKR who own Boots is in the process of selling boots for around £14billion in total in a deal that may take 5 years to complete. KKR are also looking to take over EverythingEverywhere.

Unfortunately breaking up part of boots an 1000's of job loses all happened under KKR. They a private equity investment group, they won't want to own EE or VM for much more than 3-5 years. Also if this goes a head don't be surprised to see VM open up their network to others. All they will want to do is strip down/cut cost/ sell for profit.

You may even end with something like perhaps, "VM Networks" or "UK Cable" managing the network and reselling it to other companys. An "VM digital" or something similar selling the normal things VM do now one of them will be lumbered with all the debt,

m419 19-06-2012 17:58

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly Bear (Post 35443688)
This could definately happen.

KKR who own Boots is in the process of selling boots for around £14billion in total in a deal that may take 5 years to complete. KKR are also looking to take over EverythingEverywhere.

Unfortunately breaking up part of boots an 1000's of job loses all happened under KKR. They a private equity investment group, they won't want to own EE or VM for much more than 3-5 years. Also if this goes a head don't be surprised to see VM open up their network to others. All they will want to do is strip down/cut cost/ sell for profit.

You may even end with something like perhaps, "VM Networks" or "UK Cable" managing the network and reselling it to other companys. An "VM digital" or something similar selling the normal things VM do now one of them will be lumbered with all the debt,

Opening the network doesn't work very well neither does communal TV, over subscribing will be the cause and Virgin Media will undercut rival firms badly as Ofcom will not be able to regulate pricing on non-BT companies. NTL have already tried something with AOL and it was a disaster. They previously had communal TV in southampton and other areas, that too created problems.

Virgin Media's network in Westminster,Milton Keynes and barbican is owned by BT Global and is unregulated by Ofcom and is leased by Virgin Media, they were able to roll out Broadband in Westminster, however this network sharing is also a disaster and BT will not upgrade the network leaving many homes unable to get Digital TV, there is limited options in Milton keynes. Westminster and Barbican now remain unused, waste of cable!

Telly_ 19-06-2012 18:39

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35443795)
Opening the network doesn't work very well neither does communal TV, over subscribing will be the cause and Virgin Media will undercut rival firms badly as Ofcom will not be able to regulate pricing on non-BT companies. NTL have already tried something with AOL and it was a disaster. They previously had communal TV in southampton and other areas, that too created problems.

Virgin Media's network in Westminster,Milton Keynes and barbican is owned by BT Global and is unregulated by Ofcom and is leased by Virgin Media, they were able to roll out Broadband in Westminster, however this network sharing is also a disaster and BT will not upgrade the network leaving many homes unable to get Digital TV, there is limited options in Milton keynes. Westminster and Barbican now remain unused, waste of cable!

So?

KKR Would still buy VM trim VM down and sell VM. BT open their network and it works fine, Ok BT's fibre network is superior but still it works perfectly well for all.

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Kymmy 19-06-2012 19:27

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Last post edited..

If there's any more rubbish as what I've just read in the edits posted in this thread (yes the team can read them) then infractions are going to be issued.

You're adults so please behave that way as they'll be no more warnings

m419 19-06-2012 20:20

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
[QUOTE=Telly Bear;35443804]So?

KKR Would still buy VM trim VM down and sell VM. BT open their network and it works fine, Ok BT's fibre network is superior but still it works perfectly well for all.

Virgin Media would sell it at an unreasonable price so there would be no benefit to either the consumer or the rival company. Its been proven it doesn't work. What's wrong with BT's network?

And then when technology needs upgrading like the BT and Virgin situation in Milton keynes, the same will happen again, ofcom won't be able to touch them.

Telly_ 19-06-2012 20:27

Re: VM targeted by Everything Everywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35443865)



Virgin Media would sell it at an unreasonable price so there would be no benefit to either the consumer or the rival company. Its been proven it doesn't work. What's wrong with BT's network?

And then when technology needs upgrading like the BT and Virgin situation in Milton keynes, the same will happen again, ofcom won't be able to touch them.

What? who the hell mentioned OFCOM? Do you even understand the topic of the current discussion in this thread? Were talking about a NEW owner perhaps bringing in new idea's to monetise the cable network. So the new owner would WANT to open the network...Honestly your replies never seem to take into account the context of the thread you're replying to


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