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geminian68

16-03-2012 03:29

World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

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Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology are top of a global league table of university reputation - in a top 100 dominated by US institutions.

Cambridge and Oxford make the top 10 - but other UK universities have slipped, while Asian institutions have risen.

Phil Baty, editor of the Times Higher Education rankings, says this is "uncomfortable news" for the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17368108

Alan Fry

16-03-2012 13:45

Re: World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

Remind me why we have to pay Â£9,000 a year to go universities like Cambridge and Oxford?

danielf

16-03-2012 14:41

Re: World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35400765)

Remind me why we have to pay Â£9,000 a year to go universities like Cambridge and Oxford?

Have a look at what you have to pay for Harvard...

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Cost of Attendance
Please note the Standard Student Budget includes actual tuition and fee amounts
as well as estimated allowances for related educational expenses. Tuition and Health Insurance Fees are expenses that are directly billed to students, while all other categories are estimated allowances that should not be exceeded. Financial aid eligibility is determined using the standard following cost estimates.

Standard Full-Time Ed.M. & CAS Budget for the 2012-2013 Academic Year (9 months)

TUITION* $38,480
ROOM & BOARD $14,620
HEALTH INSURANCE FEES* $ 3,098
BOOKS & SUPPLIES $ 1,576
LOCAL TRANSPORTATION $ 1,254
PERSONAL EXPENSES $ 3,540
FEDERAL LOAN FEES $ 204

TOTAL ED.M. STUDENT BUDGET $62,772

http://www.gse.harvard.edu/admission...l_aid/tuition/

mertle

16-03-2012 14:49

Re: World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

I am not suprised universities under funded need revamping Cambridge and Oxford survive due to its tradition reputation.

They pick field the hub such as electronics industry the unversity more geared to those students.

Here alot universities mixed bags too generalised there is universties who do have leading fields expertise but not enough out there.

Now the other thing is years to come the fees will get invested but We need revamping the structure of higher education.

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California, where universities have helped to drive digital industries, has three institutions in the top 10.
Knowledge hubs There has been growing economic and political importance attached to developing such "knowledge hubs", with the expectation that such advanced research bases can be the launchpads for hi-tech industries.
New York, wanting to compete with the Silicon Valley institutions in California and the research hubs in Boston, is deliberately trying to build its own science campus.

Alan Fry

16-03-2012 14:52

Re: World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35400806)

Have a look at what you have to pay for Harvard...

http://www.gse.harvard.edu/admission...l_aid/tuition/

Yes thats America, the land of the unequal, where the rich have everything, here we need to scrap the fees and invest into universities!

Hugh	16-03-2012 21:51

Re: World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

You do realise that ten times as many people attend degree-awarding institutions in the USA than do in the UK - 20 million versus 2 million?

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danielf

16-03-2012 22:32

Re: World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

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Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35400811)

Now the other thing is years to come the fees will get invested but We need revamping the structure of higher education.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35401093)

You do realise that ten times as many people attend degree-awarding institutions in the USA than do in the UK - 20 million versus 2 million?

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Link

Then again, the population of the US is 5 times that of the UK, which still makes them outscore us by 2:1. Then again again, what's a 'degree awarding institution'? Does 'college' count, when the topic is Universities?

mertle

16-03-2012 23:28

Re: World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35401100)

There's little to invest. Tuition fees were increased as teaching grants were slashed. Basically, the part of higher education that was publicly funded was taken away, and students are expected to foot the bill. There's no extra money...

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Then again, the population of the US is 5 times that of the UK, which still makes them outscore us by 2:1. Then again again, what's a 'degree awarding institution'? Does 'college' count, when the topic is Universities?

Yes many are included in the figures If memory serves me.

just example

http://www.koc.alaska.edu/

Ages since being involved in this. Knock yourselves out how many there actually are. Take Alaska there 22 alone thats not major polulation 722,000.

http://www.globalcomputing.com/ameri...iversities.htm

Hugh	16-03-2012 23:30

Re: World 'reputation' rankings: US universities in lead

No - in the first link, it shows there are also 10 million 18-24 year olds enrolling in Community or feeder colleges.

Anyhoo, my point was in rebuttal to Alan's non-fact based assertion that only the rich have everything, when in fact twice as many (per head of population) attend University.

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