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chris9991 08-03-2012 13:38

Police Commissioners could earn up to £100k
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...work-time.html

Looks like a good job - nice salary

Alan Fry 08-03-2012 15:03

Re: Police Commissioners could earn up to £100k
 
Waste of money and nothing more that a attempt to polticise the police, bring back Police Authorities

Will the Mayor of London gain £100k for being a "police commissioner" sine he is taking on the role of that post (London will not gain a elected police commissioner)?

Maggy 08-03-2012 15:15

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I'm worried that we will end up like the US if we start electing the higher echelons of the police forces. You only have to see how the US justice system works around election time for officials of the justice system.

I prefer a system where those who have been chosen on merit get the top jobs..based on the experience they have acrrued within the system.

martyh 08-03-2012 16:12

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35395630)
Unfortunatly in a system of appointment by un-elected bodies oveseen by more un-elected bodies/commitees et al. The stink of nepotism, funny hand shakes and old boy networks is overpowering and if they screw up there's vertually no way to get them out of office.

I'm sure we could avoid the worst of the American system of elections, I think we manage it with the national and regional government at the moment.

I agree ,i would much sooner see the head of the police answerable to the general public instead of politicians.
One question though ,are the new commissioners replacing a managerial level or adding one ?

Alan Fry 08-03-2012 16:20

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35395596)
I'm worried that we will end up like the US if we start electing the higher echelons of the police forces. You only have to see how the US justice system works around election time for officials of the justice system.

I prefer a system where those who have been chosen on merit get the top jobs..based on the experience they have acrrued within the system.

The last thing people need is a police that have its hands tied, the whole project would have fallen apart after a major poltical scandal

mertle 08-03-2012 16:45

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Disgraceful wages 15k max is more than enough for part time top job. We will get twerps who there for the money better idea. Interview loads unemployed give it to a suitable candidate than ex polititians onto another paycheck scrounging.

I fear what twerp like two jags will do in his area.

martyh 08-03-2012 17:05

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Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35395711)
Disgraceful wages 15k max is more than enough for part time top job. We will get twerps who there for the money better idea. Interview loads unemployed give it to a suitable candidate than ex polititians onto another paycheck scrounging.

I fear what twerp like two jags will do in his area.

You do realise that the prospective candidates for the job will have to reveal all their earnings and it will be the publics descision as to who gets the job ,it won't be given to some ex politician or private school oink automatically,although i daresay that some will apply it will ultimately be a public vote

Alan Fry 08-03-2012 17:06

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35395739)
You do realise that the prospective candidates for the job will have to reveal all their earnings and it will be the publics descision as to who gets the job ,it won't be given to some ex politician or private school oink automatically,although i daresay that some will apply it will ultimately be a public vote

Will this involve poltical parties?

martyh 08-03-2012 17:19

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35395740)
Will this involve poltical parties?

anyone can try ,Nick Ross(BBC Crime watch) is said to be interested in standing as is Simon Western(Falklands vet).If any politicians wish to stand then they can but i think the general public will not go for that

Alan Fry 08-03-2012 17:22

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35395745)
anyone can try ,Nick Ross(BBC Crime watch) is said to be interested in standing as is Simon Western(Falklands vet).If any politicians wish to stand then they can but i think the general public will not go for that

So anyone who is a member of the minor parties (if they win the vote) might get a high profile position?

martyh 08-03-2012 17:32

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35395749)
So anyone who is a member of the minor parties (if they win the vote) might get a high profile position?

if they put forward a candidate yes ,so could any independant candidate with no afiliation to any party

Derek 08-03-2012 17:39

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Crap idea. Policing shouldn't have any political angle to it, ever.

Cops are barred from belonging to political parties for that very reason, the Police have to be seen as being independent from the government.

Alan Fry 08-03-2012 17:40

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35395758)
Crap idea. Policing shouldn't have any political angle to it, ever.

Cops are barred from belonging to political parties for that very reason, the Police have to be seen as being independent from the government.

I agree, what happens if there is a poltical scandal?

Hugh 08-03-2012 20:11

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I give in - what happens?

martyh 08-03-2012 20:26

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35395892)
I give in - what happens?

We rise up against the 1% first ones against the wall and all that ? sounds about right for Alan .


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