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Alan Fry 22-11-2011 15:27

Thomas Cook in Financial Trouble
 
Thomas Cook Group plc shares fell 75% when they announced it was in talks with banks about increasing the amount of money it can borrow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15832438

They blame political unrest in Egypt and Tunisia, floods in Thailand anf Government Cuts (in general the ecnomy)

So what I want to ask is the end of Thomas Cook?

or will it surrvive

Sirius 22-11-2011 15:47

Re: Thomas Cook in Financial Trouble
 
I have a holiday booked through them in tunisia next year, Am i worried NOT in the least. It's covered by Abta.

Alan Fry 22-11-2011 16:33

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I am due to fly with Thomas Cook to Tunisia around christmas time, there is a strike planned as well

Kingofthedead4 22-11-2011 19:14

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See what happens when they sign Jamie Redknapp.

mertle 22-11-2011 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofthedead4 (Post 35333698)
See what happens when they sign Jamie Redknapp.

:)

Could this be sign of the entertainment industry in trouble with people struggling last thing people look is holidays.

The knock on is jobs go as companies fail impacting the mess more.

Hugh 22-11-2011 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35333721)
:)

Could this be sign of the entertainment industry in trouble with people struggling last thing people look is holidays.

The knock on is jobs go as companies fail impacting the mess more.

From the OP's link
Quote:

Mr Weihagen explained that trading had been particularly poor in France and Belgium, where bookings are down 20% compared with last year, and in Thomas Cook's Russian business.

"Winter travellers from Russia go to Thailand or Egypt," he said, adding that the floods in Thailand and continuing political unrest in Egypt had hit those bookings.

mertle 22-11-2011 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35333724)
From the OP's link

thanks hugh but sceptical this not just the cause time will see if this tip iceberg. No doubt they had bearing but there surely more enough other destinations to ofset these.

It strikes me they was already close to the wind.

Pog66 23-11-2011 12:43

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the companies core business was built up on cheap n cheerful package hols - now people can arrange hotels & flights themselves much cheaper so a lot of that business has gone.

Chrysalis 23-11-2011 19:13

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Shocking buying back shares, and then even worse doing things like buying planes.

Now what I cant see reported is what their annual profits were, as currently they losing money at a horrific rate. If their profits were low during their good years eg. sub 100m a year, then I think its game over.

The only good part of their investment was probably the online stuff, but even that looks to be overspent as they shouldnt be needing to spend 10s of millions to setup a online system.

Alan Fry 23-11-2011 22:02

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Is it possible that TUI Travel (owners of First Choice and Thomson) or The Co-Operative Group will make a bid because of the low share price

Pog66 24-11-2011 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35334299)
Is it possible that TUI Travel (owners of First Choice and Thomson) or The Co-Operative Group will make a bid because of the low share price

I doubt with TUI will be allowed to without upsetting Monopolies & Mergers - the Co-OP already sold their travel business to Cook's a couple of years ago so not sure they will be looking to get it back in a hurry as it won't be viewed as core business.

Alan Fry 24-11-2011 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35334569)
I doubt with TUI will be allowed to without upsetting Monopolies & Mergers - the Co-OP already sold their travel business to Cook's a couple of years ago so not sure they will be looking to get it back in a hurry as it won't be viewed as core business.

read this

http://www.e-tid.com/News-Home/TC-%E...%E2%80%99.aspx

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...p-2313269.html

plus TUI AG could takeover TUI Travel

http://www.e-tid.com/News-Home/TC-%E...%E2%80%99.aspx

Alan Fry 30-12-2011 16:04

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Could Virgin Holdidays become the white knight and buy Thomas Cook?

thenry 30-12-2011 16:20

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Thomas Cook is Arsenals official travel partner :shocked:

denphone 30-12-2011 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35352622)
Thomas Cook is Arsenals official travel partner :shocked:

Better book somewhere else for your holiday thenry.:)


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