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Welshchris 25-09-2011 04:20

Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Can anyone recommend a low level formatting tool thats half decient and doesnt have to be free either.

I have tried the manufacturers one and for some reason its not finding the drive yet the bios is.

admars 25-09-2011 08:34

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
have a look at Hiren's boot CD, or SystemRescueCD http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

they have tools like Ranish http://www.ranish.com/part/

LSainsbury 25-09-2011 08:52

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Why do you want to do a low-level format? Thought doing that went out years ago!

Personally I'd be inclined to use the manufacturers own tools to do that, which I see you've already tried - is the BIOS up-todate?

idi banashapan 25-09-2011 11:53

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
another shout for Hiren's. it holds a very useful tool set in one easy place. create a bootable USB pendrive with it and away you go. I use it pretty much every week at work for testing something or other.

Welshchris 25-09-2011 13:25

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35304696)
Why do you want to do a low-level format? Thought doing that went out years ago!

Personally I'd be inclined to use the manufacturers own tools to do that, which I see you've already tried - is the BIOS up-todate?

drive has bad clusters and wanna see if it will mark them as unusable as my sister doesnt wish to replace the drive now as my neice is having a new laptop for christmas.

Dai 25-09-2011 13:38

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Modern drives are built with spare sectors and the drive's firmware brings them into use as required and marks off bad sectors. If it's run out of spare sectors the drive is in a bad way and probably heading for a failure sometime soon.

Welshchris 25-09-2011 14:14

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
if it fails it fails and ive told her that but if i can patch it up just until christmas its even better.

Dai 25-09-2011 15:26

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35304827)
if it fails it fails and ive told her that but if i can patch it up just until christmas its even better.

If you've access to a copy of 'Spinrite' run that on it. Level 2 will attempt to read and rewrite all sectors. It will also attempt to replace bad sectors. Details here:

http://www.grc.com/srrecovery.htm

That's the nearest thing to 'magic' you'll find.

qasdfdsaq 25-09-2011 18:52

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35304802)
drive has bad clusters and wanna see if it will mark them as unusable as my sister doesnt wish to replace the drive now as my neice is having a new laptop for christmas.

Low-level format will break the mechanism used for that so I wouldn't suggest it.

Spinrite or MHDD as DaiNasty said. You want to do a surface scan & wipe not a low level format.

LSainsbury 25-09-2011 19:44

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Quote:

Today, an end-user, in most cases, should never perform a low-level formatting of an IDE or ATA hard drive, and in fact it is often not possible to do so on modern hard drives outside of the factory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting

Welshchris 25-09-2011 19:48

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Lsainsbury most of the manufacturers software gives a low level format function.

I performed Low Level formats on two of my seagate drives in order to destroy the data on the before i sent back to get replaced and Seagate Support told me to do this.

LSainsbury 25-09-2011 20:02

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35305040)
Lsainsbury most of the manufacturers software gives a low level format function.

Errr...post #3 ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35305040)
I performed Low Level formats on two of my seagate drives in order to destroy the data on the before i sent back to get replaced and Seagate Support told me to do this.

Don't think I've ever sent a drive back to the manufacturer.

I've only ever had one drive fail on me - three points to anybody who can guess the manufacturer / model of that one!

Welshchris 25-09-2011 20:05

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
i sent two back to seagate and they replaced with a different model after it was found the model i had it was problematic with firmware and was causing my system to lockup.

LSainsbury 25-09-2011 20:24

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Ah yeah - the firmware that screwed up.

Dai 25-09-2011 21:05

Re: Low Level Formatting Tools
 
Lee's correct, it's no longer possible to do a low level format as it was with early drives. The manufacturer's software fakes it by reading the re-allocated sector table and blanking the sectors in use.

You simply cannot get to the low level any longer and as Lee said, if you could it would break the drive.


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