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mollda 29-06-2011 20:28
Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
Checking my speed on speednet.test and am getting download speeds of around 12. I'm on broadband L 10Mb so am pleasantly surprised. Not sure if I'm getting faster speeds from virgin or if the results are accurate from speedtest.

www.speedtest.net/result/1363668913.png

kwikbreaks 29-06-2011 20:49
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
Some AV products can give false results (Kaspersky is/was well known for this and I think the free VM AV is based on Kaspersky).

You won't be getting faster than your config file permits and if you are on L that will be 10Mbps.

mollda 29-06-2011 21:54
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
Ok thanks, thought for a minute that VM were giving me extra speed for nothing.

horseman 30-06-2011 05:01
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
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Originally Posted by mollda (Post 35265896)
Ok thanks, thought for a minute that VM were giving me extra speed for nothing.
What do you get if you try something like VisualWare (UDP) Capacity test (ie take TCP overheads out of the equation)?:
http://mcslhr.visualware.com/myspeed...city_10mb.html

eg:

qasdfdsaq 30-06-2011 18:41
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
Ooh I like this. Definitely gotta add that to my toolbox, my server host giving me grief with my own UDP test.

Honestly, a UDP test is as far as I'm concerned the only accurate and correct way of doing a speed test, though I've never found a decent automated one before. This is superb. Simply The. Best. Speedtest. Ever.

On another note, VM seem to prioritize UDP traffic (I think) so it's a good measure of how your "last mile" DOCSIS link is performing too.

[Edit]

I cannot stress how amazing this tool is. As long as their capacity remains good, this could well be the best connection speed diagnostic tool in existence.

TJS 30-06-2011 20:34
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35266306)
Ooh I like this. Definitely gotta add that to my toolbox, my server host giving me grief with my own UDP test.

Honestly, a UDP test is as far as I'm concerned the only accurate and correct way of doing a speed test, though I've never found a decent automated one before. This is superb. Simply The. Best. Speedtest. Ever.

On another note, VM seem to prioritize UDP traffic (I think) so it's a good measure of how your "last mile" DOCSIS link is performing too.

[Edit]

I cannot stress how amazing this tool is. As long as their capacity remains good, this could well be the best connection speed diagnostic tool in existence.
Agreed, seems very accurate :)

http://mcslhr.visualware.com/myspeed/db/report?id=1153309

Failswitch 30-06-2011 22:03
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35265873)
Some AV products can give false results (Kaspersky is/was well known for this and I think the free VM AV is based on Kaspersky)..
There is no need to scare monger. I've been using Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2011 since August 2010 and have yet to come across a speedtest I've done where Kaspersky has adversly affected it.

Kaspersky Internet Security and Kaspersky Anti-Virus are two completetly different products from the same vendor. The former applications' engine is licensed by Virgin Media so please do some research before taking knocks at a perfectly good AV solution.

qasdfdsaq 01-07-2011 00:19
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
He wasn't taking knocks. It's well known Kaspersky (many versions) affect speedtest results, including making Speedtest.net jump to 200mbps or more on a 20mb line. Speedtest.net have a admitted this and introducted a workaround, many other sites are still affected.

Both the KIS and KAV engines have this effect. Please don't attack others when they post accurate information especially when you don't have a clue.

horseman 01-07-2011 14:02
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35266306)
Ooh I like this. …..
On another note, VM seem to prioritize UDP traffic (I think) so it's a good measure of how your "last mile" DOCSIS link is performing too.
…..I cannot stress how amazing this tool is. As long as their capacity remains good, this could well be the best connection speed diagnostic tool in existence.
Hmmm - interested to see your evidence to support UDP "prioritisation"….. aside from relative effect of comparing it with protocol shaping on p2p/file sharing that is….. ;)

….and remember like any "test" it still relies on efficacy of VM's peering/transit link choices…..

You might want to experiment with VW's Maidenhead and Dallas servers just to see for yourself perhaps? Here's suitable XXL capacity test links:
Maidenhead >http://mcs.lushsoft.com/myspeed/mycapacity_50mb.html

Dallas > http://mcssjc.visualware.com/myspeed...city_50mb.html

See if you discover any correlation with Dallas & London? ….but then perhaps find that Maidenhead is a little tardy…… or not?

…anyway - have fun!…… ;)

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Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35266387)
Interesting upstream stats - just out of academic curiosity I don't suppose you're serviced via a Motorola BSR 64k CMTS are you?

qasdfdsaq 01-07-2011 15:40
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
The only evidence I have is doing a HTTP, TLS or SFTP download test with 10-20 streams may only hit 20mbps while sending a single 50mbps UDP stream results in 50mbps data received with minimal loss.

i.e. TCP = ~2mbps per stream, UDP = 50mbps per stream.

TJS 01-07-2011 16:23
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
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Originally Posted by horseman (Post 35266633)
Hmmm - interested to see your evidence to support UDP "prioritisation"….. aside from relative effect of comparing it with protocol shaping on p2p/file sharing that is….. ;)

….and remember like any "test" it still relies on efficacy of VM's peering/transit link choices…..

You might want to experiment with VW's Maidenhead and Dallas servers just to see for yourself perhaps? Here's suitable XXL capacity test links:
Maidenhead >http://mcs.lushsoft.com/myspeed/mycapacity_50mb.html

Dallas > http://mcssjc.visualware.com/myspeed...city_50mb.html

See if you discover any correlation with Dallas & London? ….but then perhaps find that Maidenhead is a little tardy…… or not?

…anyway - have fun!…… ;)

EDIT:


Interesting upstream stats - just out of academic curiosity I don't suppose you're serviced via a Motorola BSR 64k CMTS are you?
Interesting good or interesting bad? LOL

How do i find out about this? :) If its any help here are the modem stats.

http://imgur.com/a/OTe94

qasdfdsaq 01-07-2011 16:24
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
3 DS channels. Bingo.

TJS 01-07-2011 16:42
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35266679)
3 DS channels. Bingo.
Which is the better cmts motorola or cisco? :)

SMG 01-07-2011 18:23
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
I have just tried the "Line capacity test", the results are spot on with speedtest.net & a few others.

Failswitch 01-07-2011 22:02
Re: Does speedtest.net post accurate results?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35266448)
He wasn't taking knocks. It's well known Kaspersky (many versions) affect speedtest results, including making Speedtest.net jump to 200mbps or more on a 20mb line. Speedtest.net have a admitted this and introducted a workaround, many other sites are still affected.

Both the KIS and KAV engines have this effect. Please don't attack others when they post accurate information especially when you don't have a clue.
You should cite your sources or provide proof rather than make sweeping statements. I regularly run speedtests with KAV running and have done so for years without Kaspersky affecting the results so I think it's you who obviously doesn't have a clue between the two products.


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