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muppetman11 28-06-2011 13:00

O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...c-broadband-uk

denphone 28-06-2011 15:10

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Thats good but they are still miles behind Virgins fiber optic network.

Mick Fisher 28-06-2011 16:41

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35265134)
Thats good but they are still miles behind Virgin fiber optic network.

:LOL:


Good news from O2.

Hopefully Be will now get their ass in gear with a definate date instead of the vague "sometime in 2011" they have been promising since forever.

Ignitionnet 28-06-2011 16:50

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Ignoring the [Mod Edit] this is good and expected news. O2 have been upgrading their transport network for a while to introduce the required GEA handovers and allow them to upgrade their backhauls in a more measured way.

Given they run their network with zero visible contention as a target and have jitter and packet loss SLAs with their wholesale customers this has a lot of potential for those who desire low latency, low jitter and stability above all else, as well as people with high bandwidth requirements via their Be brand which will also have this available and business customers via their Be Wholesale partners.

Depending which products they take they'll have 40Mbit/2Mbit, 40Mbit/10Mbit and 40Mbit/15Mbit available right off the bat with 80Mbit/20-25+Mbit available next year once Openreach have permission from Ofcom to use VDSL 2 profile 17a.

Long awaited and very positive news, shortly to be joined by the last big LLU operator to join the GEA party, Sky.

Hugh 28-06-2011 16:56

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Let's not try to get round* the swear filter, eh?

(*by using asterisks instead)

Ignitionnet 28-06-2011 16:59

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
More on this from Be's MD.

http://blog.bethere.co.uk/2011/06/md...ing-talks.html

Quote:

So our plans for fibre have to be something unlimited and unshaped too, otherwise it simply defeats the object of having greater speed. It’s great to be told you could get speeds up to some high level, but with traffic management it is unlikely you’ll get it for long. We are unlikely to be the cheapest in the market but we are determined to be the best.
Not bad for 'miles behind'.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35265196)
Let's not try to get round* the swear filter, eh?

(*by using asterisks instead)

It was the swear filter that put the asterisks in.

Stephen 28-06-2011 17:02

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35265199)
More on this from Be's MD.

http://blog.bethere.co.uk/2011/06/md...ing-talks.html



Not bad for 'miles behind'.

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It was the swear filter that put the asterisks in.

Well don't swear in future then. ;)

Turkey Machine 28-06-2011 18:29

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35265188)
Ignoring the [Mod Edit] this is good and expected news. O2 have been upgrading their transport network for a while to introduce the required GEA handovers and allow them to upgrade their backhauls in a more measured way.

Given they run their network with zero visible contention as a target and have jitter and packet loss SLAs with their wholesale customers this has a lot of potential for those who desire low latency, low jitter and stability above all else, as well as people with high bandwidth requirements via their Be brand which will also have this available and business customers via their Be Wholesale partners.

Depending which products they take they'll have 40Mbit/2Mbit, 40Mbit/10Mbit and 40Mbit/15Mbit available right off the bat with 80Mbit/20-25+Mbit available next year once Openreach have permission from Ofcom to use VDSL 2 profile 17a.

Long awaited and very positive news, shortly to be joined by the last big LLU operator to join the GEA party, Sky.

Just a shame they peer with LINX only... oh, and they've forgotten Norwich, Yarmouth and Lowestoft exchanges.

qasdfdsaq 28-06-2011 19:02

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Finally. This is excellent news. An uncapped, low contention, unshaped service that's likely to be price competitive with VM and faster, meaning VM being no longer the only game in town for high download speeds. No doubt O2/Be will also deliver highly on other aspects of the service that VM traditionally fall over on too, such as jitter, loss, and of course 24-hour UK based customer services.

Just to be clear, we're talking about VDSL FTTC fibre right, not GPON or some other FTTP?

danielf 28-06-2011 19:20

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35265274)
No doubt O2/Be will also deliver highly on other aspects of the service that VM traditionally fall over on too, such as jitter, loss, and of course 24-hour UK based customer services.

Be customer services is based in Bulgaria.

Ignitionnet 28-06-2011 20:02

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 35265240)
Just a shame they peer with LINX only... oh, and they've forgotten Norwich, Yarmouth and Lowestoft exchanges.

They peer at LINX, not with them only.

http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?searchtext=as35228

The rest, well, so what? The rollout isn't complete yet. I'm sure the 50% of the country without cable services could bemoan the lack of them, quite irrelevant to the quality of the service in the cabled areas.

By the way:

NORWICH EANCC FTTC 2012 Norfolk County

Not forgotten, work in progress!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35265274)
Finally. This is excellent news. An uncapped, low contention, unshaped service that's likely to be price competitive with VM and faster, meaning VM being no longer the only game in town for high download speeds. No doubt O2/Be will also deliver highly on other aspects of the service that VM traditionally fall over on too, such as jitter, loss, and of course 24-hour UK based customer services.

Just to be clear, we're talking about VDSL FTTC fibre right, not GPON or some other FTTP?

Both FTTC and FTTP. They get an access network agnostic connection to the BT Openreach headend serving each group of exchanges and can take customers from both the FTTC and FTTP access networks if they choose.

Ramrod 28-06-2011 20:02

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35265286)
Be customer services is based in Bulgaria.

Thats never been a problem for me. Every time I have had to ring customer services or tech support I have had an excellent service, understood the person perfectly (something that cannot be said about India) and had my queries/problems resolved.
I have been with Be for 4 years so far and can't praise them enough.....:)

qasdfdsaq 29-06-2011 02:55

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35265302)
They peer at LINX, not with them only.

http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?searchtext=as35228

The rest, well, so what? The rollout isn't complete yet. I'm sure the 50% of the country without cable services could bemoan the lack of them, quite irrelevant to the quality of the service in the cabled areas.

By the way:

NORWICH EANCC FTTC 2012 Norfolk County

Not forgotten, work in progress!

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Both FTTC and FTTP. They get an access network agnostic connection to the BT Openreach headend serving each group of exchanges and can take customers from both the FTTC and FTTP access networks if they choose.

EEEEExxxxceellleeennt (Spoken in the tone of Mr. Burns).

There's a few exchanges with partial FTTP coverage in my city and I'm due to move in the next few months or so. This could be the year I finally get an acceptable upload speed on my home broadband and stop having to pay for (and manage) an offsite server.

Mick Fisher 29-06-2011 11:20

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35265306)
Thats never been a problem for me. Every time I have had to ring customer services or tech support I have had an excellent service, understood the person perfectly (something that cannot be said about India) and had my queries/problems resolved.
I have been with Be for 4 years so far and can't praise them enough.....:)

I'll certainly second that!

danielf 29-06-2011 11:23

Re: O2 will trial fibre optic broadband in the UK
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35265306)
Thats never been a problem for me. Every time I have had to ring customer services or tech support I have had an excellent service, understood the person perfectly (something that cannot be said about India) and had my queries/problems resolved.
I have been with Be for 4 years so far and can't praise them enough.....:)

Oh yes, I couldn't agree more. I was just pointing out that someone was expecting 24h UK based support (for no apparent reason) when Be doesn't provide that.


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