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wagstaf 08-05-2011 12:50

Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
Good afternoon all.
Can anyone help with this problem:-
I have a BT master socket with ADSL filter. One side goes to phone. The other side goes to a wireless router.
When I plug the phone in it is fine. When I plug the router in, the dial tone dies and is not there.
I have tried taking off the front of the socket and using the one inside, replacing the filter, using a double adapter instead but same thing happens.
Any ideas please.
Thanks

W

LSainsbury 08-05-2011 14:25

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
So you've used the test socket and the same thing happens - correct?

Has it ever worked if so - what has changed?

wagstaf 08-05-2011 14:36

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
well....my missus hit the BT master socket hoovering yesterday and it didn't work after that.
I had a double adapter in the BT master socket connecting to
(a) a phone line, then filter, then cable to wireless router (as its someway away)
(b) a phone line, then filter, then phone.
It's worked ok like that for years.

So yesterday, since it was hit, I replaced the double adapter and have had the problem since then.

To make it simple, I have now placed just 1 ADS filter on the BT socket and plugged the router in one side and the phone line in the other.
Result is that it works with the phone/or broadband but not both.
Can't think what it can be. The BT has only 2 wires connected to it on A and B terminals so it's not that.
W.

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 12:42

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wagstaf (Post 35231777)
well....my missus hit the BT master socket hoovering yesterday and it didn't work after that.
I had a double adapter in the BT master socket connecting to
(a) a phone line, then filter, then cable to wireless router (as its someway away)
(b) a phone line, then filter, then phone.
It's worked ok like that for years.

So yesterday, since it was hit, I replaced the double adapter and have had the problem since then.

To make it simple, I have now placed just 1 ADS filter on the BT socket and plugged the router in one side and the phone line in the other.
Result is that it works with the phone/or broadband but not both.
Can't think what it can be. The BT has only 2 wires connected to it on A and B terminals so it's not that.
W.

you shouldnt be opening the back plate, its actually illegal :o:

the front plate should be connected to 2 and 5, make sure they are in properly

wagstaf 09-05-2011 13:02

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
There are no wires leading to the front plate.

Four wires leading to backplate. Only 2 in use. Think they are blue and green.

That's how it was when I found it!

Kymmy 09-05-2011 14:55

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35232404)
you shouldnt be opening the back plate, its actually illegal :o:

Illegal?? You sure??

More than likely to be against BT's T&C's with a threat of removal of services but you're suggesting that the police can arrest you for it??

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 18:13

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35232483)
Illegal?? You sure??

More than likely to be against BT's T&C's with a threat of removal of services but you're suggesting that the police can arrest you for it??

actually it is illegal, the backplate the OP is talking about is actually the frontplate, with 4 wires connected, the connections 2 and 5 are for phone/data, but the others are bell wires and can be removed, these will speed up your internet connection when removed

Kymmy 09-05-2011 22:33

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
There's a lot of conjecture as to if it is illegal especially as a lot of the EU directives have superceeded our own telecommunications act.

The original law was there to stop people intercepting telecommunications and nothing more.. Could you imagine the mess if it was illegal for anyone wanting to remove BT wiring from their homes, renovations, demolitions as all would need BT permission :rofl:

craigj2k12 10-05-2011 13:32

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35232867)
There's a lot of conjecture as to if it is illegal especially as a lot of the EU directives have superceeded our own telecommunications act.

The original law was there to stop people intercepting telecommunications and nothing more.. Could you imagine the mess if it was illegal for anyone wanting to remove BT wiring from their homes, renovations, demolitions as all would need BT permission :rofl:

im sure the amount of people who ask for permission to remove bt sockets is exactly the same number of peolpe who ask music and film producing companies if they can download their content illegally :)

Kymmy 10-05-2011 14:22

Re: Broadband/Telephone Connection - Help Pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35233083)
im sure the amount of people who ask for permission to remove bt sockets is exactly the same number of peolpe who ask music and film producing companies if they can download their content illegally :)

[off-topic]Yet breach of copyright isn't illegal as it's a civil matter.. Piracy though is illegal (selling copyrighted items for profit)

What many believe is "illegal" is not.. and downloading a film or music is not illegal though the companies can take you to court..[/off-topic]

The master socket situation is currently in a grey area even if "illegal" the police are very unlikely to do anything unless your intercepting communications which is illegal. All BT can do is throw their T&C's in your direction and charge you for a new socket or suspend your services ;)


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