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Maggy 29-03-2011 14:14
MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...tion-rate.html

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A cross-party alliance of MPs will launch a fresh bid to tighten the rules on terminations.

Nadine Dorries, a Conservative MP, and Frank Field, a former Labour minister, will table amendments to the Health and Social Care Bill now passing through the Commons.

Supporters of the amendments say that passing them would lead to a dramatic reduction in the number of abortions that take place in the UK.
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The first amendment would create a new precondition for any women having an abortion to receive advice and counselling from an organisation that does not itself carry out terminations.
Fair enough! I've no objections to that.
However I do over this.

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The second amendment that will be tabled next week would strip the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of its role setting clinical guidelines on abortions.
Instead, the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence should advise doctors on when to allow an abortion, the MPs believe.
I don't believe the RCOG have done a particularly bad job thus far and I can't help feeling that their specialist knowledge is of far more relevance than that of the NIHCE.

Personally I think that the legislation for abortion is fine just as it is as I see no need to be changing anything.
What do you think?

Damien 29-03-2011 14:27
Re: MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
Leaving aside the issue in hand, Nadine Dorries is a nasty piece peice of work. She has often come to blows with the scientific and medical community for verious reasons.

Taf 29-03-2011 14:40
Re: MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35201469)
Leaving aside the issue in hand, Nadine Dorries is a nasty piece peice of work.
http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives...0_things_that/

downquark1 29-03-2011 15:49
Re: MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
Oh not this American nonsense. South Dakota now has a mandatory waiting time for abortion.

But none for gun-purchase strangely enough.

Lord Nikon 29-03-2011 15:54
Re: MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
Am I the only one who thinks if it becomes harder to have a legal abortion we will see a rise in back street abortionists?

'No it's ok, if you go to the hospital you'll have to go through counselling and jump through hoops, they may not even let you have one then, but I know this person, they're really good and not very expensive...'

danielf 29-03-2011 16:02
Re: MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
I really wonder what the purpose of this exercise is. If you want to lower the number of abortions that are carried out (which I'm sure everyone thinks would be good), then surely the sensible thing to do would be to drive down the number of unwanted pregnancies? Not to force people to have a baby they don't want?

Oh. And did we actually vote for this, or will this just be pushed through without consulting the public?

Sparkle 29-03-2011 16:03
Re: MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35201515)
I really wonder what the purpose of this exercise is. If you want to lower the number of abortions that are carried out (which I'm sure everyone thinks would be good), then surely the sensible thing to do would be to drive down the number of unwanted pregnancies? Not to force people to have a baby they don't want?
Yep, the last thing our society needs is more unwanted babies. :tu:

Damien 29-03-2011 17:24
Re: MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35201515)
I really wonder what the purpose of this exercise is. If you want to lower the number of abortions that are carried out (which I'm sure everyone thinks would be good), then surely the sensible thing to do would be to drive down the number of unwanted pregnancies? Not to force people to have a baby they don't want?

Oh. And did we actually vote for this, or will this just be pushed through without consulting the public?
Goverments are free to introduce laws that were not in their election materials. As much as I hate this plan they have the right to introduce it.

That said I don't think they will get it though. Dorres isn't a mainstream MP as far as I know and may find it difficult to get support for it, especially amongst lib dem MPs....

mertle 30-03-2011 17:17
Re: MPs launch new bid to cut abortion rate
 
should be completely upto the individuals and not meddling government.

Same with the stupid idea of preventing devorces leave it upto people. Those people are in the best position to decide if an acidental birth should be aborted or a failing mariage is not working. It can be anything from financial reasons why people dont want the kid and what will happen.

Like someone said backstreat do it yourself dangerous abortions or loads unwanted kids left in the streets which there huge danger. Rising poverty for forced to keep kids not wanted worse abuse.

Getting really peeved about all the interference.


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