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wallbash 17-02-2011 22:15

+ Box fills faster with HD?
 
Tried to do a 'search ' for this , but could not fabricate the question. The + box , since we got the HD tv fills faster . Appreciate that HD must ??? take more space on hard drive than standard picture. But can any one tell me how much / hours of High Definition can one store on the box.

Marcus125 17-02-2011 22:19

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
Ok note to self.

read question before offering an answer.

Stuart 17-02-2011 22:21

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
HD takes around 4 times the space of standard definition tv.

I believe the capacity of the box is around 20 hours of HD.

wallbash 17-02-2011 22:40

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
Thanks Stuart , must stop the kids recording everything in HD , will restrict to my choice!

This makes the deleting of a film when on critical , suddenly gives a few hours of space .. we are seeing light at the end of the tunnel.

Marcus125 spill the beans , what did you think I asked ?

OLDGOLD 17-02-2011 22:41

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
I just recently switched from Sky+ HD and HD programs never used to take up anywhere near the amount of space that they do on V+. I think I've seen somewhere that VM use a different type of compression?? or video format?? to Sky, which is why there is a difference.

If that is the case, why don't VM start using the same compression or video format that Sky do? I appreciate TiVo is just around the corner, but even with a 1TB hard drive, the drive will still fill up quicker than if a better compression or video format was used (especially if it is as good as finding things for you to watch as the promos suggest).

Marcus125 17-02-2011 22:47

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallbash (Post 35176887)
Thanks Stuart , must stop the kids recording everything in HD , will restrict to my choice!

This makes the deleting of a film when on critical , suddenly gives a few hours of space .. we are seeing light at the end of the tunnel.

Marcus125 spill the beans , what did you think I asked ?

Bassically I thought you were asking if and why HD takes more space.

muppetman11 17-02-2011 22:47

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 35176889)
I just recently switched from Sky+ HD and HD programs never used to take up anywhere near the amount of space that they do on V+. I think I've seen somewhere that VM use a different type of compression?? or video format?? to Sky, which is why there is a difference.

If that is the case, why don't VM start using the same compression or video format that Sky do? I appreciate TiVo is just around the corner, but even with a 1TB hard drive, the drive will still fill up quicker than if a better compression or video format was used (especially if it is as good as finding things for you to watch as the promos suggest).

Sky use Mpeg 4 were VM still use Mpeg 2 there are no differences to picture however your right mpeg4 is compressed more hence it doesn't take as much of your hard drive.

wallbash 17-02-2011 22:53

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
Quote:

Bassically I thought you were asking if and why HD takes more space.
Reasonable first assumption .

Its our own fault , although have had the + box for ages of only recently got the chavvy 50 inch plasma .
It does really display HD nature films ( Madagascar) brilliantly.


Ps , is it ok to say how happy I am with Virgin?

OLDGOLD 17-02-2011 22:58

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35176893)
Sky use Mpeg 4 were VM still use Mpeg 2 there are no differences to picture however your right mpeg4 is compressed more hence it doesn't take as much of your hard drive.

Thanks muppetman. Mpeg4 and Mpeg2...I remember now lol. So does anyone know why VM don't use Mpeg4? Is it a cost thing? Or is it incompatible with their network etc? Or are they just stubborn lol?

Marcus125 17-02-2011 23:05

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallbash (Post 35176896)
Reasonable first assumption .

Its our own fault , although have had the + box for ages of only recently got the chavvy 50 inch plasma .
It does really display HD nature films ( Madagascar) brilliantly.


Ps , is it ok to say how happy I am with Virgin?

Virgin are fine and I have never had a problem with there services.......................................Now there customer services,,,well lol...

I still have there internet and phone.

muppetman11 17-02-2011 23:09

Re: + Box fills faster with HD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 35176902)
Thanks muppetman. Mpeg4 and Mpeg2...I remember now lol. So does anyone know why VM don't use Mpeg4? Is it a cost thing? Or is it incompatible with their network etc? Or are they just stubborn lol?

Basically most of VM early STB weren't compatible however samsung v+hd , cisco vhd and TIVO are I think so maybe in the future they will look to change as it would save bandwith.


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