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martyh 04-10-2010 20:34

Unemployed Families Face Cap On Benefits
 
Wasn't sure wether to post this in the 'child benefit thread ' so if any admin staff wish to merge it then feel free


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The amount of benefits unemployed families can claim will be capped to make sure that work pays, George Osborne told the Conservative Party conference.
Unless they have disabilities, families will not receive any more than the average working household earns.
The limit will be £500 per family per week after tax and will leave 50,000 households £93 a week worse off on average
It's a good idea and long past it's due but the jobs have to be there for people to take in the first place

peanut 04-10-2010 20:43

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Puts things into perspective really, £500 a WEEK, and that is still classed as acceptable. I need to start breeding. :D

Maggy 04-10-2010 20:45

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11463435

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Chancellor George Osborne has announced plans for a maximum limit on the amount of benefits one family can claim.
He told the Conservative conference the cap would be set at the amount "the average family gets for going out to work", which is about £26,000 a year.
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It would also would include carer's allowance and industrial injuries disablement benefit - although it would not include one-off benefits such as social fund loans and non-cash benefits such as free school meals or working tax credits.
All households with a disability living allowance claimant will be exempted from this measure, as would war widows.
I think it is a bit harsh on carers.:(

martyh 04-10-2010 20:55

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35103486)
Puts things into perspective really, £500 a WEEK, and that is still classed as acceptable. I need to start breeding. :D

That would be the highest amount though ,for families with loads of kids.My main concern is how much this will affect the kids of said families as a large amount of these families will be the 'serial claimants' who think more of there fags and sky than thier kids .I can see a rush of disability claims coming

Maggy 04-10-2010 20:59

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35103499)
That would be the highest amount though ,for families with loads of kids.My main concern is how much this will affect the kids of said families as a large amount of these families will be the 'serial claimants' who think more of there fags and sky than thier kids .I can see a rush of disability claims coming

Oh yes and I can see any number of genuine claimants having to justify being given disability allowance under mounting pressure because of the need to 'weed' out the scammers.:(

martyh 04-10-2010 21:03

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35103500)
Oh yes and I can see any number of genuine claimants having to justify being given disability allowance under mounting pressure because of the need to 'weed' out the scammers.:(

Totally agree Maggie ,It may even work out that genuine claimants and people who genuinely only want to be unemployed for the short term will end up being penalised if the system is not implemented correctly

Taf 04-10-2010 21:29

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35103490)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11463435I think it is a bit harsh on carers.:(

They said they would not attack the most vulnerable.... instead they are attacking those who look after the most vulnerable.

Maybe it's all a complicated ploy to get Family Carers into work... maybe as Commercial Carers looking after their own disabled family members? No need to pay Carers enough to live on in addition to carers Allowance from Government coffers (e.g. Income Support, Housing Benefit, Community Charge Benefit). The anti-discrimination announcements recently seem to be (in part) a way to get Carers into work in addition to the hours we put in looking after disabled family members.

It's all smoke and mirrors until it's too late to complain....

martyh 04-10-2010 21:38

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35103522)
They said they would not attack the most vulnerable.... instead they are attacking those who look after the most vulnerable.

Maybe it's all a complicated ploy to get Family Carers into work... maybe as Commercial Carers looking after their own disabled family members? No need to pay Carers enough to live on in addition to carers Allowance from Government coffers (e.g. Income Support, Housing Benefit, Community Charge Benefit). The anti-discrimination announcements recently seem to be (in part) a way to get Carers into work in addition to the hours we put in looking after disabled family members.

It's all smoke and mirrors until it's too late to complain....


No the government is going to implement a plan to increase proffesional carers payed for by the NHS so that all family carers will be able to go and have a career of their choice knowing that thier disabled loved ones will be looked after in a loving and caring manner .....oops posted in the wrong forum should have put this in the dreamworld forum :D

Arthurgray50@blu 04-10-2010 22:14

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If this happens it will do bad damage to the unemployed, l was out of work for nearly six months, and l had to survive on Jobseekers allowance of £72.00 per week and l had to pay rent as well, l got housing benefit, but that was only £15.00 so in total l got £87 per week, and l couldn't surive on that, everything had to go out the window.

What this government will be doing is crucifying the workforce, as there is no decenct work out there.

WHY, WHY does the Tory government always do this when they get into power, Next will be the OAP's, They will rip this country to pieces with there budget cuts, and this is only the start.

martyh 04-10-2010 22:28

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35103571)
If this happens it will do bad damage to the unemployed, l was out of work for nearly six months, and l had to survive on Jobseekers allowance of £72.00 per week and l had to pay rent as well, l got housing benefit, but that was only £15.00 so in total l got £87 per week, and l couldn't surive on that, everything had to go out the window.

What this government will be doing is crucifying the workforce, as there is no decenct work out there.

WHY, WHY does the Tory government always do this when they get into power, Next will be the OAP's, They will rip this country to pieces with there budget cuts, and this is only the start.

Usually because they are repairing the damage done to the economy by the labour party :rolleyes:

Sirius 04-10-2010 22:35

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35103589)
Usually because they are repairing the damage done to the economy by the labour party :rolleyes:

:clap:

Ignitionnet 04-10-2010 22:46

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35103571)
If this happens it will do bad damage to the unemployed, l was out of work for nearly six months, and l had to survive on Jobseekers allowance of £72.00 per week and l had to pay rent as well, l got housing benefit, but that was only £15.00 so in total l got £87 per week, and l couldn't surive on that, everything had to go out the window.

What this government will be doing is crucifying the workforce, as there is no decenct work out there.

WHY, WHY does the Tory government always do this when they get into power, Next will be the OAP's, They will rip this country to pieces with there budget cuts, and this is only the start.

So you got 87 pounds per week. A cap of 500 a week would affect you... how exactly? :confused:

Mick 04-10-2010 22:54

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35103571)
WHY, WHY does the Tory government always do this when they get into power, Next will be the OAP's, They will rip this country to pieces with there budget cuts, and this is only the start.

WHY WHY WHY do you not bother to take in what you have already been told by others and in the news? You still don't get it do you? The interest being paid on the deficit alone, is not sustainable, so unfortunately cuts are needed.

There is a huge huge deficit that is not going to pay itself off, on it's own without some form of control on spending.

Arthur, Labour would have been doing the budget cuts had they still been in power, they just didn't get the chance to announce exactly what they were planning on cutting because they lost power.

nomadking 04-10-2010 23:05

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35103571)
If this happens it will do bad damage to the unemployed, l was out of work for nearly six months, and l had to survive on Jobseekers allowance of £72.00 per week and l had to pay rent as well, l got housing benefit, but that was only £15.00 so in total l got £87 per week, and l couldn't surive on that, everything had to go out the window.

What this government will be doing is crucifying the workforce, as there is no decenct work out there.

WHY, WHY does the Tory government always do this when they get into power, Next will be the OAP's, They will rip this country to pieces with there budget cuts, and this is only the start.

You seem to be getting your rent fully paid and getting an extra £15/week on top of your normal benefits.

The up to £15/week extra in housing benefit is one of the first things that should be stopped for everybody, as why should somebody get extra just because they live in a certain area.

Arthurgray50@blu 04-10-2010 23:45

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If the Tories bring out this so called Universal Benefit, everyone will suffer, does this mean that if they are going to stop certain benefits, they will stop benefitd being sent abroad by the claimants, which they do.

I have said all along, the Tories have to start on there own doorstep, l voted Lib Dems in the elections, but l won't do that again.

This government has to bring hope for this country, where there is work, at the moment there isn't any, my job is on the line due to these budget cuts, and l won't be happy if l lose it.


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