Originally Posted by punky (Post 35032527)

You have to wonder

1. Why anyone bothers investing time and money devdeloping for their platform

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35032692)

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 35032531)

because no matter what they do people will just love Apple.

Their products have been tested and often their are better alternatives but the fanboy will always buy an Apple product . Some people appear to defend them with theor very soul lol

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35033112)

Because they mostly make a lot of money. If they are not the ones being rejected of course. Some Mac Developers much as Panic are not submitting anything to the store however because of their position.



Because it's not anti-competitive. A lot of platform holders decide who goes on their platform. It would be more worrying if iPhone OS was on many platforms and a de-facto standard and they started removing apps that compete with their core business (such as web browsers).

They suffer when developers refuse to develop for such a platform though.



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Such tribalism is exactly the type of thing that causes competitors to underestimate the impact Apple can have when it enters a new market, like it did with the iPod, like it did with the iPhone.

Better is a subjective term and whilst it is certainly true you can almost always find a better specced item at a lower price than Apple's offerings it doesn't mean it's better. The quality of execution from Apple, from the UI, the marketing, the 'feel' and build quality of devices and all the attention to small details are a big reason Apple do well.

You can dismiss that as Apple Fanboyism but look at the success of Apple's products. It's clearly not limited to Apple fans buying them.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35033112)

Because they mostly make a lot of money. If they are not the ones being rejected of course. Some Mac Developers much as Panic are not submitting anything to the store however because of their position.



Because it's not anti-competitive. A lot of platform holders decide who goes on their platform. It would be more worrying if iPhone OS was on many platforms and a de-facto standard and they started removing apps that compete with their core business (such as web browsers).

They suffer when developers refuse to develop for such a platform though.



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Such tribalism is exactly the type of thing that causes competitors to underestimate the impact Apple can have when it enters a new market, like it did with the iPod, like it did with the iPhone.

Better is a subjective term and whilst it is certainly true you can almost always find a better specced item at a lower price than Apple's offerings it doesn't mean it's better. The quality of execution from Apple, from the UI, the marketing, the 'feel' and build quality of devices and all the attention to small details are a big reason Apple do well.

You can dismiss that as Apple Fanboyism but look at the success of Apple's products. It's clearly not limited to Apple fans buying them.

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35033187)

Which magazine did a test on portable media devices and the Ipod didnt come top

Steve Jobs. Bill Gates peas same pod and not I

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35033185)

Seriously you think that buying a product that is three times the price of any competing product ISN'T fanboyism? :erm:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35033206)

No, Look how successful the iPod and iPhone have been. You can't accuse all of them of being fanboys.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35033244)

And how many people don't have Ipods? :wavey:Who are quite happy with the cheaper alternatives(not knock off Ipods either).:wavey:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35033287)

Good for them but Apple are sitting on a massive pile of cash. iPods, iPhones and now iPads are very successful. There is a reason other than fanboyism that they sell well.

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35032531)

because no matter what they do people will just love Apple.

Their products have been tested and often their are better alternatives but the fanboy will always buy an Apple product . Some people appear to defend them with theor very soul lol

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35033244)

And how many people don't have Ipods? :wavey:Who are quite happy with the cheaper alternatives(not knock off Ipods either).:wavey:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35033297)

Its choice at the end of the day, Macs are normally better for music makers and graphic designers, just choice at the end of the day.

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35033295)

Their products have been tested and often their are better alternatives but the fanboy will always buy an Apple product . Some people appear to defend them with theor very soul