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Osem 17-05-2010 22:51

Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
A good idea I reckon - it was just too easy for Brown and Darling to dream up all sorts of unrealistic 'growth' forecasts in order to make their spending plans look realistic.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7129189.ece

What do you think?

Xaccers 17-05-2010 22:55

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
I've no doubt that Osborne comment that it will be a rod for his and furture chancellors' backs is quite accurate, and I agree it will be a good thing.

Osem 17-05-2010 23:03

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
New Labour created so many quangos - I wonder why they didn't create this one? :confused: :rolleyes:

Damien 17-05-2010 23:06

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35023624)
New Labour created so many quangos - I wonder why they didn't create this one? :confused: :rolleyes:

They gave the Bank of England control over interest rates didn't they? Isn't this a similar move?

Osem 17-05-2010 23:10

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35023628)
They gave the Bank of England control over interest rates didn't they? Isn't this a similar move?

Your point being? Oh I see, that they did something good and the fact that they didn't do far more is OK??? :confused:

Of course, the BOE's current dilemma is how they juggle the balls they've been handed - how to keep inflation under control without putting interest rates up... Some may say Brown gavce them a 'hospital pass' but I wouldn't care to comment on that...

Damien 17-05-2010 23:24

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35023636)
Your point being? Oh I see, that they did something good and the fact that they didn't do far more is OK??? :confused:.

I never said that the fact they didn't do more good was ok. I pointed that in the first few months of office they made a similar move to the one Osborne has made is all. Unless you expected that remark to go unchallenged, I don't see what's wrong with pointing it out.

Labour did do good as well as bad. This government is likely going to follow the same pattern. We can always complain that a government didn't do enough good and then point to good ideas and claim the previous government should have done it can't we?

nomadking 17-05-2010 23:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35023628)
They gave the Bank of England control over interest rates didn't they? Isn't this a similar move?

But that's all they had control over. They couldn't for instance raise/lower fuel duty. They could only react to any situation that the Labour Government itself created.

Osem 17-05-2010 23:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35023657)
I never said that the fact they didn't do more good was ok. I pointed that in the first few months of office they made a similar move to the one Osborne has made is all. Unless you expected that remark to go unchallenged, I don't see what's wrong with pointing it out.

Labour did do good as well as bad. This government is likely going to follow the same pattern. We can always complain that a government didn't do enough good and then point to good ideas and claim the previous government should have done it can't we?

Nothing's wrong with pointing something out and nothing's wrong with replying is there? ;)

I didn't and have never claimed New Labour did nothing right - I just asked why they didn't go further and put fiscal forecasting in the hands of an independent body outside of government influence. I reckon it's because they wanted to be able to dream up 'forecasts' which suited their spending plans. What do you think?...

Damien 17-05-2010 23:32

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35023661)
Nothing 's wrong with pointing something out and nothing's wrong with replying is there? ;)

I didn't and have never claimed New Labour did nothing right - I just asked why they didn't go further. Perhaps you can answer?...

No, I can't. You would have to ask them.

Again you can always say a government didn't go far enough, unless we're living in utopia there is always a lot to be done. Of course Labour may well have fallen quite a way short in a number of areas *cough*civil liberties*cough* but there we go. They lost the election.

Why didn't the previous Tory government give control to the Bank of England, why didn't they sort out hospitals, why didn't they...etc etc...We can go around all day.

Osem 17-05-2010 23:35

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35023664)
No, I can't. You would have to ask them.

Again you can always say a government didn't go far enough, unless we're living in utopia there is always a lot to be done. Of course Labour may well have fallen quite a way short in a number of areas *cough*civil liberties*cough* but there we go. They lost the election.

Why didn't the previous Tory government give control to the Bank of England, why didn't they sort out hospitals, why didn't they...etc etc...We can go around all day.

....and that's why we have discussion forums isn't it? To discuss things like this and wonder about the rationale....

RizzyKing 18-05-2010 20:22

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
Is it a good thing yes it is, should it have been done a lot sooner regardless of who the government is yes it should :).

Maggy 18-05-2010 20:26

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
Funny how a discussion can so resemble an argument..;)

MovedGoalPosts 18-05-2010 20:54

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
Odd how only a few months ago Mr Cameron was so against the proliferation of Quangos:

http://www.conservatives.com/News/Sp...g_Quangos.aspx

Osem 18-05-2010 21:12

Re: Independent 'Office for Budget Responsibility' to be created
 
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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 35024067)
Odd how only a few months ago Mr Cameron was so against the proliferation of Quangos:

http://www.conservatives.com/News/Sp...g_Quangos.aspx

Perhaps he intends to discriminate between the valuable and not so valuable. That'd be reasonable wouldn't it?

This makes interesting reading:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-per-cent.html



In other news related to matters financial:

Top civil servants 'protested over Labour spending'

Quote:

Senior civil servants were so concerned at Labour ministers' spending decisions they asked for written orders to show who was responsible, says their union.
See:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35023995-post446.html

If it's true that'd hardly be responsible financial management would it but then that's no real surprise to most of us.


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