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Maggy 02-05-2010 18:15
Somali Islamist insurgents seize pirate haven
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8657060.stm

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Somali insurgents have taken control of one of the main pirate havens in the south of the country.
Residents said several hundred rebels of the group Hizbul Islam had taken over the coastal town of Haradhere and that the pirates had fled.
Hizbul Islam wants to establish Sharia law and order and put an end to the pirate trade in the town, the leader of the insurgents told the BBC.
Now is this a good thing or does it bode ill? I'm certainly not sure either way.

Earl of Bronze 02-05-2010 19:35
Re: Somali Islamist insurgents seize pirate haven
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35012616)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8657060.stm



Now is this a good thing or does it bode ill? I'm certainly not sure either way.
My money is that it bodes ill....

papa smurf 03-05-2010 08:30
Re: Somali Islamist insurgents seize pirate haven
 
great news -now the real business of stoning women /lashings and mutilations can begin- up the revolution:rolleyes:

Maggy 03-05-2010 08:44
Re: Somali Islamist insurgents seize pirate haven
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35012920)
great news -now the real business of stoning women /lashings and mutilations can begin- up the revolution:rolleyes:
But if the piracy reduces? :erm:

papa smurf 03-05-2010 08:47
Re: Somali Islamist insurgents seize pirate haven
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35012925)
But if the piracy reduces? :erm:
do two negatives make a positive ?;)

Maggy 03-05-2010 08:50
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Like I said originally it's hard to see if it going to be a good turn of events.

What's going to be interesting is how the rest of the world deals with the situation..if they even notice.

injuneer 03-05-2010 09:09
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I don't suppose the rest of the world will do anything judging by the general state of affairs in Somalia. The insurgents could just take over the piracy. I was wondering about the fate of the British couple held by the pirates & found this today:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22229883/

martyh 03-05-2010 09:19
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Originally Posted by injuneer (Post 35012947)
I don't suppose the rest of the world will do anything judging by the general state of affairs in Somalia. The insurgents could just take over the piracy. I was wondering about the fate of the British couple held by the pirates & found this today:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22229883/

not sure i fancy their chances to be honest

Maggy 03-05-2010 09:23
Re: Somali Islamist insurgents seize pirate haven
 
Depends on who still holds the pair.The pirates may have just abandoned them..

injuneer 03-05-2010 10:21
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There were 350 hostages according to the BBC!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8657810.stm

Mr Angry 03-05-2010 14:12
Re: Somali Islamist insurgents seize pirate haven
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35012956)
Depends on who still holds the pair.The pirates may have just abandoned them..
It appears they were "evacuated".

What is interesting is the largely unreported number of British muslims travelling on the "Djibouti express" of late. There have been large numbers of them travelling to Somalia in support of the al-Shabab militants.

It's a bit "worrying" to say the least.

EDIT.

By "bizarre coincidence".

Earl of Bronze 03-05-2010 14:16
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35013117)
It's a bit "worrying" to say the least.
No need to worry Angry, it's a religion of peace after all. ;)

Mr Angry 03-05-2010 14:29
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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 35013118)
No need to worry Angry, it's a religion of peace after all. ;)
That it may well be, however I think it's worthy of note that dozens of radicalised individuals are openly travelling between the UK and theatres of conflict.

How is this happening, who is facilitating it and what, if anything, are the security forces doing to prevent it?

Earl of Bronze 03-05-2010 14:55
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35013124)
That it may well be, however I think it's worthy of note that dozens of radicalised individuals are openly travelling between the UK and theatres of conflict.

How is this happening, who is facilitating it and what, if anything, are the security forces doing to prevent it?
What can they do ? Intern anyone they think is a radical and on their way to some third world toilet to learn to be a Muj ? Well, I think we all remember how well that worked in Norn Iron.... ie, not very.... I'd rather radical British Muslims went to Afghan to fight the forces of the great and little satans, rather than they strap on an explosive waistcoat, and turn our streets into charnel houses again. Better they get slotted in (incert name of 3rd world toilet here), than allegedly trying to de-radicalise them at home....

martyh 03-05-2010 15:20
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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 35013135)
What can they do ? Intern anyone they think is a radical and on their way to some third world toilet to learn to be a Muj ? Well, I think we all remember how well that worked in Norn Iron.... ie, not very.... I'd rather radical British Muslims went to Afghan to fight the forces of the great and little satans, rather than they strap on an explosive waistcoat, and turn our streets into charnel houses again. Better they get slotted in (incert name of 3rd world toilet here), than allegedly trying to de-radicalise them at home....
agreed ,and trying to de radicalise them is a lost cause far better getting them out of this country


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