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General Maximus 27-02-2010 19:50

100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
Virgin haven't even finished doing the upgrades they need to do to get 50mbit running properly and they are already flouting 100mbit. I am normally happy to give praise where praise is due but in this case it is winding me up. I would rather have a solid 50/10 line than whatever stupid ratio they are going to come up with for 100mbit (100/5?).

calmpitbull 27-02-2010 20:09

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
I can't speak for other areas but in Nottingham we have a very reliable 50meg service despite all the students. Apart from a particular UBR (being worked on) its all good i'm afraid.

Spectato 27-02-2010 20:12

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
The new 'flagship products' are good for grabbing headlines and stimulating sales.
Gotta keep packing in those new customers (victims).

Sephiroth 27-02-2010 20:29

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
It may be tempting for some to say that VM haven't got it right now so at 100 Mbps they will also get it wrong.

On the other hand, I'd like to think that the 100 Mbps roll out will see the necessary upstream performance adjustments such as channel bonding and sufficient bandwidth.

General Maximus 27-02-2010 20:35

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
I agree dude, Lincoln connects to the main thing in Nottingham and my connection has always been solid, I just think they need to do mmore with the upstream rather than increasing downstream. Tbh, the only time I get my 5mbps is if I am using torrents or newsgroups. It would be nice to download even faster than I am now, but I would prefer increased upload speed instead.

Sirius 27-02-2010 20:44

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 34971713)
I agree dude, Lincoln connects to the main thing in Nottingham and my connection has always been solid, I just think they need to do mmore with the upstream rather than increasing downstream. Tbh, the only time I get my 5mbps is if I am using torrents or newsgroups. It would be nice to download even faster than I am now, but I would prefer increased upload speed instead.

I don't use torrents (far to insecure) i prefer newsgroups or ftp. So speeds like this on a Saturday night prove to me they have it right. Yes upload increase might seem nice but i feel they will introduce speed controls on torrents and the like before they increase the upload dramaticaly.

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martyh 27-02-2010 20:54

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
i don't understand the fuss about upstream speeds what people tend to forget imo is that vm and all other providers are chiefly concerned with supplying to general household users only a very small number of those wish to upoad vast amounts of data ,if you want commercial speeds get a commercial connection and quit whining

AbyssUnderground 27-02-2010 21:19

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
A lot more people use more upload than you would expect, with social networking etc now around.

Personally I require a lot because of the work I do, yet NO provider can provide decent speeds. I do web design, graphic design and photography, and I can produce GB's of data every day on occasion. With a pitiful 512Kbps on the 10Mbps service, how am I expected to upload that data? It takes hours to complete, and I get STM'ed if I do it in peak ours!

martyh 27-02-2010 21:29

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34971751)
A lot more people use more upload than you would expect, with social networking etc now around.

Personally I require a lot because of the work I do, yet NO provider can provide decent speeds. I do web design, graphic design and photography, and I can produce GB's of data every day on occasion. With a pitiful 512Kbps on the 10Mbps service, how am I expected to upload that data? It takes hours to complete, and I get STM'ed if I do it in peak ours!

well arent you using a connection designed for home use not buisness use ,don't vm do a special connection for buisness users ?i don't know a lot about it so please excuse my ignorance but it does seem that a lot of people are using a home connection for buisness use

AbyssUnderground 27-02-2010 21:34

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
I never said I was using it for business purposes, however I do the above things as hobbies for myself and friends. You don't have to be a business to justify a good connection...

martyh 27-02-2010 21:59

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34971769)
I never said I was using it for business purposes, however I do the above things as hobbies for myself and friends. You don't have to be a business to justify a good connection...

but isn't the end result the same whether you earn money from it or not ,you still need buisness up speeds from a domestic line which isn't designed for it

Sephiroth 27-02-2010 22:00

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
Even the meagre upload ratio we now get would look better if people in congested areas could just get their upstream timeslots when requested.

Uploads are very important to people, e-mails with attachments, etc.

Rik 27-02-2010 22:05

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34971751)
how am I expected to upload that data? It takes hours to complete, and I get STM'ed if I do it in peak ours!

A very good reason to upgrade to 50Mb Andy ;)

1.65Mb would certainly help your cause and no shaping :)

Sephiroth 27-02-2010 22:07

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rik (Post 34971809)
A very good reason to upgrade to 50Mb Andy ;)

1.65Mb would certainly help your cause and no shaping :)

If you're in an uncongested area and can thus get an on demand upstream timeslot.

Rik 27-02-2010 22:08

Re: 100mbit? don't make me laugh
 
I do look forward to 100Mb tho, but they MUST do something with the upload speed otherwise they will just look silly!

100Mb down
5Mb up

That would be laughable, Id still upgrade to it tho ;)

---------- Post added at 21:08 ---------- Previous post was at 21:07 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34971811)
If you're in an uncongested area and can thus get an on demand upstream timeslot.

Lots of people do ;) and have a rock solid completely reliable 50Mb service.


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