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Turkey Machine 05-11-2009 20:20

Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
I know they're not strictly RJ11 plugs, but for the sake of argument, assume they're the ones that connect to your ADSL modem for example. :)

Is it possible to crimp an RJ11 plug onto a network cable? I'm looking to replace the current telephone extension lead we have with electrically shielded network cable, but can't find anything that says if this would work or not.

LSainsbury 05-11-2009 20:36

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
You mean you want to attach an RJ11 to some UTP CAT5 cable?

Turkey Machine 05-11-2009 20:44

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
Yep, that's the one. Infinitely simpler than I could spit it!

Kymmy 05-11-2009 20:51

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
If you cut away the shield a bit and just had 6 of the wires sticking out in a line then yes it could be done, are you using RJ12 or RJ11?? (12 = 6way and 11 = 4way)

Turkey Machine 05-11-2009 21:06

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34904572)
If you cut away the shield a bit and just had 6 of the wires sticking out in a line then yes it could be done, are you using RJ12 or RJ11?? (12 = 6way and 11 = 4way)

Was intending 4 way. 6P4C.

Kymmy 05-11-2009 21:09

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
OK, so 4 wires sticking out then... If using shielded remember that the shield is only partialy effective as it's not connected as it's a plastic plug on both ends ;)

Turkey Machine 05-11-2009 21:13

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
Should be more than capable of having a dog trying to trash the damn thing every day! :D

LSainsbury 05-11-2009 21:14

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34904546)
I'm looking to replace the current telephone extension lead we have with electrically shielded network cable...


UTP = Unshielded Twisted Pair....how does that become electrically shielded!!

Turkey Machine 05-11-2009 21:31

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
The twisting in the wires helps reject some noise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable

Better than ordinary telephone flex at this rate.

An addendum to this: UTP means the 4 twisted pairs themselves aren't electrically shielded. The actual twisting of the wires is far better in this respect at shielding interference than telephone flex or the super-substandard 4 wire flat cable that has no shielding whatsoever.

progers 07-11-2009 09:34

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
If you want extra cable, Maplins sell network cable by the metre, RJ 45 plugs and a crimping tool.

Just be careful when crimping the plugs on as it's very easy when inserting the cables into the plug to get two crossed over - I now examine mine through a magnifying glass first!

LSainsbury 07-11-2009 09:57

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by progers (Post 34905540)
If you want extra cable, Maplins sell network cable by the metre, RJ 45 plugs and a crimping tool.

Just be careful when crimping the plugs on as it's very easy when inserting the cables into the plug to get two crossed over - I now examine mine through a magnifying glass first!


Don't buy RJ45s from Maplins - they are crap! Go to ScrewFix or get some from RS / CPC.

Sir John Luke 07-11-2009 10:01

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
....or then again - why buy RJ45's at all when the OP specified RJ11?

LSainsbury 07-11-2009 10:24

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir John Luke (Post 34905548)
....or then again - why buy RJ45's at all when the OP specified RJ11?

That's true! :D

Not ever used the RJ11's from there so fill yer boots!!

progers 07-11-2009 13:04

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by progers (Post 34905540)
If you want extra cable, Maplins sell network cable by the metre, RJ 45 plugs and a crimping tool.

Just be careful when crimping the plugs on as it's very easy when inserting the cables into the plug to get two crossed over - I now examine mine through a magnifying glass first!

Having put my glasses on, you can also get RJ11s from Maplins in a packet with a "hit with a hammer" crimping tool - they work fine (as do RJ45s from Maplins IMHO!"

LSainsbury 07-11-2009 15:41

Re: Wiring a network cable with RJ11 plugs
 
These are the ones I got before (RJ45s) - terrible terrible things...

FCC68 (RJ11) look ok though...


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