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gianipower 15-10-2009 20:25

20 meg? I think not.
 
http://www.speedtest.net/result/593266395.png

I cant wait until my 12 month poxy contract with nthell is up the company stinks bit time they are throttling anyone who downloads too much they are throttling anyone that uses p2p itsa becoming no fun with nthell any more.

6 months to go then its BT or Talk Talk here I come.

Ignitionnet 15-10-2009 20:28

Re: 20 meg my arse
 
Both of whom throttle P2P to a virtual standstill at peak times. Enjoy.

Oh and you're not throttled in that speed test.

I see bomber_g offered to assist you with the fault, I hope he can help you resolve it.

gianipower 15-10-2009 20:30

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
I know its not throttle it just jumps about a bit high to low within minutes at least with bt ill get it cheaper and get what I pay for NtHell charge me for 20 meg and give me what they feel like giving me.

Sephiroth 16-10-2009 23:53

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
You said it yourself - "... someone who downloads too much". I want VM to throttle everyone who swamps my path. It's a brilliant policy!

webcrawler2050 16-10-2009 23:54

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianipower (Post 34891277)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/593266395.png

I cant wait until my 12 month poxy contract with nthell is up the company stinks bit time they are throttling anyone who downloads too much they are throttling anyone that uses p2p itsa becoming no fun with nthell any more.

6 months to go then its BT or Talk Talk here I come.

Good luck with Talk talk to be fair.

gianipower 17-10-2009 11:56

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34892143)
You said it yourself - "... someone who downloads too much". I want VM to throttle everyone who swamps my path. It's a brilliant policy!

Whats the point in having "fast broadband"if they punish you for using it?.

I cant understand having a fast download speed but then bot being allowed to use it.

Its a bit like paying for a new car and then they give you a second hand one because the mileage is too high (but they still charge you for the new one), or paying your water bills ina drought.

Ive downgraded my connection to 10 meg as thats all I was getting regularly so no need to moan now really but why dont they just be honest and say look we cant provide you with 20 meg as we oversold it in your area.

pip08456 17-10-2009 12:05

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34892143)
You said it yourself - "... someone who downloads too much". I want VM to throttle everyone who swamps my path. It's a brilliant policy!

Even though I am a prolific user of P2P and download quite a lot I have to agree with you.

I find the STM period no problem at all altough I do not like it. I can see how it would impact on others during those times.

The perfect solution for me is to set my P2P client to limit the up/down stream during those times so I stay within the limits.

As you would say "Simples"!

gobbledigook 17-10-2009 13:34

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianipower (Post 34892314)
Whats the point in having "fast broadband"if they punish you for using it?.

your low speed isn't due to you being punished for using it - ie you are not being managed as your upload is pretty close to being fine:)

i would look at other possibilities - get you modem levels here and check yours are ok. do another speedtest whilst connected directly to the modem using a cable and no P2P software or other processes running in the background.

once you have exhausted all other ways of diagnosing and repairing your connection speed - ie file a fault ticket! then you may moan :)

gianipower 17-10-2009 15:41

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/45.png


No torrents for a few days but I still get this rubbish I phoned the helpline was told to wait 30 minutes as im on a mobile I gave up.

---------- Post added at 14:05 ---------- Previous post was at 14:04 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobbledigook (Post 34892383)
your low speed isn't due to you being punished for using it - ie you are not being managed as your upload is pretty close to being fine:)

i would look at other possibilities - get you modem levels here and check yours are ok. do another speedtest whilst connected directly to the modem using a cable and no P2P software or other processes running in the background.

once you have exhausted all other ways of diagnosing and repairing your connection speed - ie file a fault ticket! then you may moan :)


I have posted those already but am quite willing to do it again if u wish.

Whats a fault ticket?.

---------- Post added at 14:08 ---------- Previous post was at 14:05 ----------

Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 4
Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4
Downstream Receive Power Level : 2.0 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 40.0 dB


Upstream Lock : Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 6
Upstream Frequency : 37488000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QPSK
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 49.0 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2

---------- Post added at 15:41 ---------- Previous post was at 14:08 ----------

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/46.png


This is just over an hour later.
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 4
Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4
Downstream Receive Power Level : 0.2 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 40.0 dB


Upstream Lock : Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 4
Upstream Frequency : 29200000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QPSK
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 52.5 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2

gianipower 20-10-2009 06:42

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
Do they look good bad or ok?.

Sephiroth 20-10-2009 07:48

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
There is a wider fluctuation than I would expect in your downstream power level, indicating something going on in the VM side of things.

But you'd need to monitor that, say, every 30 seconds for at least 5 minutes to get a proper picture of the fluctuations.

As a snapshot individually, they're nominal. (OK)

gianipower 20-10-2009 21:48

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/37.png

Its gets wore and worse anyone reading this be warned DO NOT USE Virginmedia for boradband its used top be good at one time but its just not giving what it says on the box any more.
I was paying for 20 meg but was not getting anywhere near it often so i dopwngraded to 10 meg and still I dont get it im thinking of seeing if they still do 2 meg that way ill get what I ask for MAYBE.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/38.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/39.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/40.png

Could this be due to other people near me downlaoding?.

Peter_ 20-10-2009 21:54

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gianipower (Post 34892394)







Downstream Receive Power Level : 2.0 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 40.0 dB



Upstream transmit Power Level : 49.0 dBmV





This is just over an hour later.

Downstream Receive Power Level : 0.2 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 40.0 dB



Upstream transmit Power Level : 52.5 dBmV

Your power levels are all within operational parameters especially the downstream in the 2nd set of levels.

Tony. 20-10-2009 22:03

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
Of course using Speedtest.net is notoriously inaccurate for VM with just a little time I could make an argument either way

For instance... VM 20 meg is rubbish look

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/34.png

Or VM 20 meg is Brill look

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/35.png

Or even VM 20 meg is not bad look

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/36.png

As you can see all the above teats are within 2 mins of each other

Peter_ 20-10-2009 22:04

Re: 20 meg? I think not.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony. (Post 34894311)
Of course using Speedtest.net is notoriously inaccurate for VM with just a little time I could make an argument either way

For instance... VM 20 meg is rubbish look

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/34.png

Or VM 20 meg is Brill look

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/35.png

Or even VM 20 meg is not bad look

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/10/36.png

As you can see all the above teats are within 2 mins of each other

Which is why we use Gamefiles
http://www.virginmedia.com/testmyspeed/manual.php


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