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Tezcatlipoca 07-10-2009 20:42

The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
Amazon's "Kindle" eBook reader is finally going to be available outside of the USA.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/10/07...ng-october-19/

You will still have to purchase it from Amazon.com though, rather than a local Amazon site.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015T963C/...pf_rd_i=468294

The Kindle has a built-in 3G & HSDPA modem, which can also fall back to GPRS & EDGE, for connecting to Amazon's "Whispernet" for downloading content.

"Whispernet" access is free & uses "AT&T's 3G high-speed data network in the U.S. and partner networks outside of the U.S".

Damien 07-10-2009 21:01

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
I want one.

One problem though is the cost of delivery adds £30 onto the cost and it comes with the US plug! Really how lazy is it not to include regional power supplies.

Derek 07-10-2009 22:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34885803)
I want one.

Same here. I'm rapidly running out of bookshelf space.

Although not sure if I really want a kindle or just want an ebook reader and one of the Sony ones would suit me a bit better.

jamiefrost 07-10-2009 22:41

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The new Sony one's look really nice especially the touch screen version. I have a Cybook at the moment so I can't really justify a new ebook reader.

:(

JJ

Damien 07-10-2009 22:42

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34885902)
Same here. I'm rapidly running out of bookshelf space.

Although not sure if I really want a kindle or just want an ebook reader and one of the Sony ones would suit me a bit better.

I like the hardware for the Sony but detest the selection available for it. Amazon have a ton of books and the newspapers and magazines thing.

SB_07 07-10-2009 22:46

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Last time i ordered stuff from Amazon.com i got charged fees from the postman too.

Tezcatlipoca 08-10-2009 00:57

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
I'm hoping that, now that the Kindle will be available outside the US, the Kindle iPhone App will become available in the UK App Store (it's currently only available in the US App Store).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34885803)
I want one.

One problem though is the cost of delivery adds £30 onto the cost and it comes with the US plug! Really how lazy is it not to include regional power supplies.

At least it charges over USB though, so I don't think that's too much of a problem. Plug it into your computer with the included cable, or maybe slap a UK plug adaptor on the US plug (the power adaptor supports 100-240V).

Quote:

Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34885923)
Last time i ordered stuff from Amazon.com i got charged fees from the postman too.

If you import something from a non-EU country you may be liable to Customs Duty, plus if the item costs over £18 you will also have to pay Import VAT (calculated on the total cost of item + shipping).

$279 = £174.71

Priority Courier Shipping to Europe of "Kindle or Kindle Accessories" = $14.99 = £9.39

Total = £184.10

Then add Import VAT @ 15% ... £27.62 (rising to £32.22 when VAT goes back up to 17.5%).

For some countries, Amazon has an "Import Fees Deposit" service, where you can pay the relevant fees in advance via Amazon when you pay for the actual order itself (Amazon takes your money for the estimated fees, & passes it on to the shipping people to pay the relevant import fees on your behalf when it gets to this end).

If you don't pay it in advance, then you have the situation like you have had before, where the delivery company pay the fees for you and hold onto the item until you reimburse them... often plus an admin fee of some sort (I've been stung for fees before when ordering some things from the US, and had to pay Import VAT plus a separate handling fee when picking the item up from the Royal Mail depot).

[Although, speaking of Amazon & Royal Mail... Amazon.co.uk has ditched Royal Mail for parcels over 500g... http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oc...postal-strikes ]

Maggy 08-10-2009 07:22

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
Nah! I prefer a book and the smell of books.I can take a book into the bath..;)

Stephen 08-10-2009 10:15

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
I would love an e-book reader but they are still too expensive for me.

Damien 08-10-2009 10:27

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34886010)
I'm hoping that, now that the Kindle will be available outside the US, the Kindle iPhone App will become available in the UK App Store (it's currently only available in the US App Store).

You can download it from the US store since it's free. I know I did, but then I had an account though buying gift vouchers from ebay. Will you be getting a Kindle then Matt?

Good point about the USB but given the cost of the thing I wish they put more effort into these small details. I mean really, How hard would it have been to ship a bunch to the UK to store in their own warehouses and have UK plugs on them? They could still allow purchase though the US store but then the shipping would be cheaper. They went to the trouble of putting a 3G connection into the device and getting International rights from the Publishers after all.

It's bizarre.

jamiefrost 08-10-2009 16:30

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
Not sure I like the remote wipe feature of the Kindle though, A lot of online ebook retailers are starting to apply geographical restrictions which are really anoying when a 'UK' version is not available.

JJ

Tezcatlipoca 08-10-2009 21:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34886116)
You can download it from the US store since it's free. I know I did, but then I had an account though buying gift vouchers from ebay.

I only have a UK account on iTunes. How do you get a US account? Just sign up again with a different email & US address?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34886116)
Will you be getting a Kindle then Matt?

Nope. Too expensive at the moment, IMO.

Also, someone pointed out on another forum I posted this on, colour e-ink devices are round the corner, plus apparently the rumoured Apple Tablet may support eBooks in some way. Allegedly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34886116)
Good point about the USB but given the cost of the thing I wish they put more effort into these small details. I mean really, How hard would it have been to ship a bunch to the UK to store in their own warehouses and have UK plugs on them? They could still allow purchase though the US store but then the shipping would be cheaper. They went to the trouble of putting a 3G connection into the device and getting International rights from the Publishers after all.

Good point. Hopefully it won't be long before they start selling them directly from Amazon.co.uk, with UK plugs.

Damien 09-10-2009 08:59

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34886556)
I only have a UK account on iTunes. How do you get a US account? Just sign up again with a different email & US address?.

I think so. I can't remember if you need to have a valid credit card or voucher, or if you can sign up anyway.

Incidentally after re-downloading the Kindle app I can confirm it's working fine. Ordered a book off amazon and can read it on the phone.

jamiefrost 09-10-2009 10:12

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
Think I'd prefer the new sony prs-600, the kindle is really big for the amount of actual screen you get.

JJ

Tezcatlipoca 09-10-2009 19:21

re: The Amazon Kindle Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34886800)
I think so. I can't remember if you need to have a valid credit card or voucher, or if you can sign up anyway.

Incidentally after re-downloading the Kindle app I can confirm it's working fine. Ordered a book off amazon and can read it on the phone.

I may give that a try then, unless the UK Store gets it soon.

------------------------------------

Ah, excellent! :rolleyes:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...kindle-charges

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guardian
Amazon admits: international Kindle users will pay more
  • International buyers to be charged 40% more per book
  • Admission contrasts with company's earlier comments

Bobbie Johnson, technology correspondent
guardian.co.uk, Friday 9 October 2009 16.24 BST


Amazon has admitted that international users of its Kindle book reader will be paying significantly more to buy books than their American counterparts.

Since announcing the worldwide launch of the Kindle on Wednesday, many users had questioned whether they would be forced to pay more for downloading books wirelessly to the £200 gadget.

The company had attempted to allay those fears by insisting that foreign users would not be paying extra for downloads - but it has now emerged that the internet retail giant will indeed be charging higher prices for consumers outside the United States.

When asked by the Guardian precisely how much downloads would cost, an Amazon.co.uk spokesman revealed that foreign customers - including those in Britain - would be paying $13.99 (£8.75) per book instead of the American price of $9.99 (£6.25). That amounts to a 40% premium for the same title.

(snip)



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