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Pia 07-10-2009 10:32

Am I paying too much?
 
I'm confused! I'm led to believe i'm getting a good deal cos of an old rententions deal, but looking at the VM site i'm not so sure anymore :shrug:

This is what my bills say:

Line Rental - £11.00
Talk Evening & Weekend - £3.45
Loyalty Bb/Phone/TV Discount - -£22.70
Call bar, Calldispl - £3.50
TV Size XL - £23.00
Broadband Size: L - £25.00
Paper bill - £1.25 << oops need to sort this

Total - £44.50


Doesn't seem right to me, because before extras it's about £38 according to VM site, and yet i'm meant to be getting a £22.70 discount?

Am i paying too much? I don't want to ring up and look like a goon so thought i'd ask here before i do :dunce:


Not to mention i'm getting a grand total of 2meg download speed but i suppose that's another story altogether :td:

BenMcr 07-10-2009 10:44

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
Simple answer - no you are not paying to much.

Those services should cost £52.95 (£54.20 with the paper bill fee)

Remember you have to add £11 line rental onto any price on the website that includes the phoneline (which it does say)

EBD3000 07-10-2009 11:24

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34885453)
Remember you have to add £11 line rental onto any price on the website that includes the phoneline (which it does say)

IMO the web site price should include that automatically.

But then I suppose if they did that they couldn't quote cheaper prices than sky.

Pia 07-10-2009 11:38

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
Oh i thought it did include the line rental....

So when i go here: http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...e-builder.html and tick all the XL options and it says £47 pm. after 6 months, they really mean £58? :shrug:

BenMcr 07-10-2009 14:06

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
Yes because once again, you have to add £11 line rental - just as it says!

£40 a month*
for 6 months, £47 after that

*When you take a Virgin phone line for £11 a month

Pia 07-10-2009 16:26

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
I see, thanks for the help!

p.s why am i paying £3.50 for the extras, i thought it was only that much when you had all of them in one bundle?

BenMcr 07-10-2009 18:13

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
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Originally Posted by Pia (Post 34885627)
p.s why am i paying £3.50 for the extras, i thought it was only that much when you had all of them in one bundle?

Features now cost £2 each, but the feature bundle is £3.50 so it will always charge you the lower price.

If you want to pay £4 for them I'm sure they can add 50p to the account each month ;)

Sephiroth 10-10-2009 11:54

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34885573)
Yes because once again, you have to add £11 line rental - just as it says!

£40 a month*
for 6 months, £47 after that

*When you take a Virgin phone line for £11 a month

This is one of the wholly disreputable things about the VM pricing display.

There is no TV option without the phone line. You can't remove the phone line from the basket.

Yet, the web site has a low TV price in bold bright colours and in poor contrast small print, the £11 for a phone line, which is compulsory. I find this shameful. (See the attached picture).

RobboEdin 10-10-2009 12:04

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34887657)
This is one of the wholly disreputable things about the VM pricing display.

There is no TV option without the phone line. You can't remove the phone line from the basket.

Yet, the web site has a low TV price in bold bright colours and in poor contrast small print, the £11 for a phone line, which is compulsory. I find this shameful. (See the attached picture).

True but isn't £16.50 per month cheaper than 1 mix from Sky and you get your telephone line rental thrown in?

There are bundles without the phone line for TV alone or TV plus BB but not at such low prices.

Sephiroth 10-10-2009 15:13

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 34887661)
True but isn't £16.50 per month cheaper than 1 mix from Sky and you get your telephone line rental thrown in?

There are bundles without the phone line for TV alone or TV plus BB but not at such low prices.

What you say may be true. But that isn't the issue her.

Virgin do not display their prices in a straightforward manner. I can't say it's dishonest, but it is disreputable to my mind.

RobboEdin 10-10-2009 15:32

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34887761)
What you say may be true. But that isn't the issue her.

Virgin do not display their prices in a straightforward manner. I can't say it's dishonest, but it is disreputable to my mind.

I agree that things are not put straightforwardly but Virgin Media are competing with others and try to market their products as comparably as possible. Unfortunately, the competition ALWAYS have the phone line charge in the small print so Virgin Media have done the same.

What additional charge for TV would BT, Sky, ..... levy on top of their landline charge?

Sephiroth 10-10-2009 20:30

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 34887775)
I agree that things are not put straightforwardly but Virgin Media are competing with others and try to market their products as comparably as possible. Unfortunately, the competition ALWAYS have the phone line charge in the small print so Virgin Media have done the same.

What additional charge for TV would BT, Sky, ..... levy on top of their landline charge?

I can't agree with you. Taking broadband as the case in point:

1/
BT: By definition, BT broadband prices must assume a phone line. No way round that and no deception.

2/
SKY: You can take move your telephone to SKY and then their 10 mbps service is £5; without their phone it's £10. Their web site panel is clear and unambiguous.

3/
Virgin: Unless I've missed something in their checkout basket, you are forced to take their telephone if you take either their cable broadband or TV. You are told there is no need to retain your BT line; but VM don't provide any services via the BT line like BT and SKY do.

So, unless there's some method I've not discovered for not taking a VM phone line with BB, there's no valid comparison with other broadband providers.

RobboEdin 10-10-2009 21:49

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34888036)
I can't agree with you. Taking broadband as the case in point:

1/
BT: By definition, BT broadband prices must assume a phone line. No way round that and no deception.

2/
SKY: You can take move your telephone to SKY and then their 10 mbps service is £5; without their phone it's £10. Their web site panel is clear and unambiguous.

3/
Virgin: Unless I've missed something in their checkout basket, you are forced to take their telephone if you take either their cable broadband or TV. You are told there is no need to retain your BT line; but VM don't provide any services via the BT line like BT and SKY do.

So, unless there's some method I've not discovered for not taking a VM phone line with BB, there's no valid comparison with other broadband providers.

You do not have to have a Virgin Media phone line for any of their services!

I have their TV and BB but no phone.

They have plenty of options without phone line:

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/webs...ct.do?id=11025

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/webs...uct.do?id=3264

Pia 18-10-2009 22:19

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
Well i'm confused, why is my supposed 'L' BB listed on my bill at being £25 when on the website it clearly says it's £14 pm?

My line rental is also listed so it's not that :shrug:

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/webs...uct.do?id=3264



And, TV 'XL' is on the site as £21.50 yet mine is £23

I feel like i'm being skanked lol.

BenMcr 19-10-2009 00:53

Re: Am I paying too much?
 
Both prices on the website are after discounts. So you get a £1.50 discount for having a phoneline and TV

£23 - £1.50 = £21.50

and you get a £11 discount for having Broadband L and Phoneline

£25 - £11 = £14

So the total discount you should be getting is £12.50, however you are getting a £22.70 discount.

Hardly getting skanked!


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