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Osem 19-03-2009 10:12

Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/n...re/7951778.stm

Can't see this policy going down well...

zing_deleted 19-03-2009 10:17

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Well its not a ban at all its just those who can not understand English I would have though a great portion of foreign speaking nationals at least learn English when they live here. If a customer comes in rapidly chattering urdu and do not understand you how can you sell them anything?

I think its fair enough myself

Damien 19-03-2009 10:26

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Making it a formal policy is the problem here. This part:

Quote:

Mr Kumarasiri said he could not serve people if he did not understand what they were asking for
Yes. Obviously. This should go without saying, if someone comes in and is unable to speak the language to such an extent they could not convey their request then they won't be able to be served.

This guy seems to want to make a statement out of it. It's also the case that people may have just arrived or are visiting and is it fair to exclude them totally? How about if their English is poor but you can understand what they want? Are they excluded?

roadwolf 19-03-2009 10:35

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Fair play to him, he can make a stand without the race card being used against him. There seems to be quite a few people on this forum who are quite happy to be trampled on, and feel sorry for the people who don't want to learn our language or customs, yet still reap the benefits that these posters are paying for in taxes.

Peter_ 19-03-2009 10:38

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
If he was white then he would have been arrested and cautioned or at least been thrown out of his post office job by now, but as he is asian everybody is probably to frightened to say boo to him in case he says their being racist.

Quite funny in many ways.

Hugh 19-03-2009 10:48

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34756751)
If he was white then he would have been arrested and cautioned or at least been thrown out of his post office job by now, but as he is asian everybody is probably to frightened to say boo to him in case he says their being racist.

Quite funny in many ways.

Ahem - from the article
"But Afzal Sadif from the Nottingham Racial Equality Council said Mr Kumarasiri's stance was "unacceptable". "

papa smurf 19-03-2009 10:50

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
what if the customer is without speech ?
pointing and gesturing usually surf-ices ,no i think this is just plain rude.

roadwolf 19-03-2009 10:54

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Yes but he only said unacceptable, no hint of racism.

---------- Post added at 11:54 ---------- Previous post was at 11:51 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34756770)
what if the customer is without speech ?
pointing and gesturing usually surf-ices ,no i think this is just plain rude.

Do you have to post just for the sake of it, people with afflictions can't help the way they are, he is on about immigrants who can't be bothered to learn the language.

Peter_ 19-03-2009 10:55

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34756765)
Ahem - from the article
"But Afzal Sadif from the Nottingham Racial Equality Council said Mr Kumarasiri's stance was "unacceptable". "

But no arrest or loss of job.

papa smurf 19-03-2009 11:04

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roadwolf (Post 34756771)
Yes but he only said unacceptable, no hint of racism.

---------- Post added at 11:54 ---------- Previous post was at 11:51 ----------


Do you have to post just for the sake of it, people with afflictions can't help the way they are, he is on about immigrants who can't be bothered to learn the language.

what the hell are you on ? i have the same right to post as any other CF member , if you don't like it report it or go and play somewhere else ,you might find the bnp site better suits your point of view

roadwolf 19-03-2009 11:17

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34756795)
what the hell are you on ? i have the same right to post as any other CF member , if you don't like it report it or go and play somewhere else ,you might find the bnp site better suits your point of view

Calm down keyboard warrior. No one is saying you have no right to post, but maybe if you posted opinions that were relative to the title, ( Post office's foreign language 'ban') Then you would most probably get a better response.

papa smurf 19-03-2009 11:30

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roadwolf (Post 34756809)
Calm down keyboard warrior. No one is saying you have no right to post, but maybe if you posted opinions that were relative to the title, ( Post office's foreign language 'ban') Then you would most probably get a better response.

"pointing and gesturing usually surf-ices ,no i think this is just plain rude."
i think that counts as an opinion --

Pierre 19-03-2009 11:40

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
Sounds like common sense to me.

Perhaps local government could save a few hundred thousand a year by not having to print everything in 15 other bloody langauages too.

RizzyKing 19-03-2009 11:59

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
It is no secret we have many people living in this country that cannot speak english or will not. Having attended a training centre that had what was called an esol department specifically to help non english speakers learn english and the service hardly being used in a community that had a high proportion of non english speakers it is obvious to me some people will have to be forced to learn the main language of this country.

This is not to say they cannot ever again speak their native language but it isn't unreasonable to expect any long term resident of this country to learn to speak english. Apart from everything else if we can achieve that we will take a little piece of ammunition from such despicable groups as the bnp. Also this policy must take into account those vulnerables in our society who for whatever reason have speech impediments or other problems and must give due respect and facilities to those groups within our society.

It is all too easy these days to be called racist because you make a demand of minority groups but when it comes to learning english i don't see that as racist it is something that we will all benefit from no matter who we are and will only give positive benefits to those who do learn it living in the UK. It is not wrong to make such a basic request of any group of people that they learn the language of the country in which they live.

Taf 19-03-2009 12:41

Re: Post office's foreign language 'ban'
 
If they don't speak enough English to be understood they should bring their own competant translator. The same goes for when they visit the DSS, Council, doctor, dentist, schools, etc.

Their lack of knowledge should not lay the financial burden for translation on the taxpayer as it often is.


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