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johnlfitz 25-09-2008 10:43

ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
After moving to Manchester 11 months ago, there's been a seemingly never ending bout of internet service being lost. I'm in the OL8 postcode area.

I'm not talking about something specific to me, I mean the "unforeseen faults" and local outages that seem to happen every few weeks, often resulting in internet connection being lost for several hours.

Over the past 11 months, when the connection is lost, I must have made 15-20 phone calls to ask for updates as to when service will be restored. Each time I get the same "canned" / scripted response from someone in an Indian call centre along the lines of "I can confirm there is a fault in your area and service will be restored as soon as possible" ...... obviously this is of little help.

The latest outage was Tue 23rd September at around 5pm (sync light constant and ready light flashing on cable modem) - just as I was about to send a really important email. Thinking it would be a few hours of outage whilst it was fixed, I left it until 10pm ..... and it was still not working then. Frustrated, I went to bed thinking that service would be restored by the morning. Still nothing in the morning (Wednesday).

Called so called customer services, guess what, another canned response of "I can confirm that there is a fault in your area, and service will be resumed as soon as possible" - after he asked me to switch cable modem off and on again. Come home from work Wednesday night, still same. 24 hours of no internet service. Still having the important email in my Outlook outbox, I was praying that normal service would resume soon. Nothing. I sit down to watch football on Sky Sports (that I'm paying for) and the picture breaks up intermittently! The phone was at least working .... :mad:

I phone up again, there's a message stating that OL8 and SK6 areas have a fault, and that "our engineers are aware, and service will be resumed as soon as possible". No service again for Wednesday evening.

I wake up this morning (Thursday), still no connection. I phone India again and I'm asked to turn the modem off and on again (I've now done this 30+ times over the past 2 days) and then when this didn't achieve anything (surprise surprise) I am then told "I can confirm that there is a fault in your area, and service will be resumed as soon as possible". At this point I am livid - so I ask if there's any information about when service will be restored. I am told "I can confirm that there is a fault in your area, and service will be resumed as soon as possible". I state that this is not an acceptable level of service and repeat my question. Response, wait for it, was "I can confirm that there is a fault in your area, and service will be resumed as soon as possible". I then slammed the phone down.

I've been without an internet connection now for what will be 2 full days come 5pm this afternoon (which I'm sure will still be down when I return from work). How long does it take to fix a fault ??!!!?

I'm forking out just short of £100 a month across the Virgin Media phone, broadband and TV services. Paying £37 per month for a shoddy 20Mb service that constantly has "local faults". Seriously fed up with being ripped off. I don't want money back or anything .... I just want the service I'm paying for.

Been with Virgin Media since during the NTL days and Cable & Wireless days .... probably 12 years all told. How can I keep being charged so much and not given a decent & reliable service ?!?!?

I'm seriously considering leaving.

Can anybody shed any light into the current issues in the OL8 and SK6 areas, and advise when this will be fixed?

Cheers

John

Kymmy 25-09-2008 10:47

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
Normally internet faults are rectified in 5 days, that I believe is thier normal internal SLA time (I'm sure that someone will confirm that)

maevvy 25-09-2008 11:04

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
Hi.

Had pretty much similar problems and had same responses since the same time as you. Except I'm in the L23, Liverpool area!

Net went dead at 1210am Wendesday (So very late "tuesday" like you).. Phoned VM 6 times last night. Spoke to a few helpful people, and net is now just very intermittant.

Got a phone call this morning saying that the cable light on the modem was flashing (again).. So I'm guessing it's lost it's lock (again).. So whether they are working on the issue who knows lol. Been through the whole there is a major server problem conversation with them... Someone gave me a 16hr fix quote lol.. Right. Helpful. Well 16 hours are up now and it's still not fixed :D. When the internet was working incidentally, I was using nslookup fine (though wouldnt connect to any websites) and tracert was fine... Though ping was INCREDIBLY high on VM routing servers. Every 5 minutes for 30 seconds or so the internet was usuable so I could surf a website. Not too helpful :(.

Persevere with them, I got some discount for my troubles :D.

But yes, will be phoning them again tonight if I still have an issue/no internet. I have recently started an OU course, so naturally the internet is a necessity!

In general I find the Indian call centres to be 50/50. Sometimes they are determined not to listen to you (very important thing being part of customer service) and start going through a script. I had the guy on the other end of the phone last night try to explain to me what upstream and downstream is (This was because I was telling him I had downstream lock and no upstream lock).. There was no need for it, but that's just their script - just say yep yep yep.. hang up, phone again, which is what i did (and ended up speaking to one guy TWICE). Other times though, I can't fault them and they have been very helpful.. Most of it I get the feeling is a language barrier and they tend to misunderstand what you say or just have very poor English so they follow their script so it crosses the T's and dots the I's and just listen out for keywords.

johnlfitz 25-09-2008 11:30

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
yes echoing your comments maevvy ....... just sick and tired of an unreliable service, and no likely chance of ever speaking to somebody that will give an answer to a question.

Kymmy - so, there's nothing we can do with this kind of constant outage, as long as each incident is fixed within 5 days !?!?! That's an absolute joke !! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Can a tech or someone that can give some resemblance of an answer from Virgin please:
  • PLEASE advise when this current outage in Oldham (OL8 area) is to be fixed. Don't say "I can confirm that there is a fault in your area, and service will be resumed as soon as possible" or I will be phoning cancellations.
  • confirm whether outages can be within a 5-day SLA for each incident? If so, I'll be getting a BT line and ADSL, and get rid of Virgin Media because this is so ridiculous it's untrue
Many thanks

John

---------- Post added at 10:30 ---------- Previous post was at 10:29 ----------

Anybody know of a facility within this site to IM a VM techie or someone in the management team ?

Kymmy 25-09-2008 11:37

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
You'll find the 5 (working)day SLA (or even longer) standard across most ISP's,

Normally though the more people involved in the outage the faster they try to fix it...

Even on the business product the 5 days stands, currently I'm waiting for thier domain transfer servers to work which went down friday.

If you want a faster fix then you'll have to pay a hell of a lot more for something like a managed/lease line

Mick Fisher 25-09-2008 11:45

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
You can deal with UK support via the newsgroup

viginmedia.support.broadband.cable

maevvy 25-09-2008 11:45

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
Kymmy is right. I'm positive it wouldn't be any better anywhere else. The real issue is the CS I think which at some points does lack.

Kymmy 25-09-2008 11:47

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
Seen this though in lots and lots of posts, people ringing up CS instead of talking to TS...

As suggested use the newsgroups as the more people who get through to TS the more likely they are to escalate the fault

maevvy 25-09-2008 11:48

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34642564)
Seen this though in lots and lots of posts, people ringing up CS instead of talking to TS...

As suggested use the newsgroups as the more people who get through to TS the more likely they are to escalate the fault

Yes, but the problem is *I* can't do that because I simply have no internet.

Simple as.. And I'm not willing to do it from work, unless there is a way I can do it web based without downloading a news reader.

Oh sorry, misread your post unless you meant the newsgroups.

Nope, I talked to tech support last night :). CS skills are still required for TS :).

johnlfitz 25-09-2008 11:51

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
If is true that the 5-day SLA is average (or better than average), then the issue here then is the frequency of outages.

This kind of thing is happening every couple of weeks and whichever way this is painted, it's poor service.

Having had VM (previously NTL) broadband for around 7 years previously (in Burnley) in can count on one hand the number of times that the internet connection was down. 11 months in Manchester and it's down every few weeks, ranging from hours to days (as per the current outage).

I'm paying for a service that I'm not getting. It's not acceptable and VM need to realise this.

johnlfitz 25-09-2008 11:53

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
same here maevvy - can't get to newsgroups because .... no access to internet.

I've enough on at work to be looking to do it there . . . . best I can manage is quick reply on here :(

maevvy 25-09-2008 12:39

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
Bright idea here.. But I'll get my pal to post on the tech support newsgroup.. that'll do it :D.

I'll get him to post about both issues.. Just link him to this thread..

slowcoach 25-09-2008 12:49

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
I'm in the OL8 area and have had no issues since the last network upgrade when it went down for 2 hours in the small hours (on schedule), in fact since then I have been getting 19Mb at all times of day and night.
The current problem is obviously only affecting certain parts of OL8.

johnlfitz 25-09-2008 13:49

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
Looks like some areas of Liverpool are having the same / similar problem?

See http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...-problems.html

craig5320 25-09-2008 14:16

Re: ANGRY: Manchester / Oldham broadband down since Tuesday (OL8 + SK6 areas)
 
OL9 here, I was experiencing 404's on major websites which a refresh sorted instantly, these would happen randomly. Went away yesterday happened for a couple of days, but no other issues.

Sorry about your issues, but I can confirm CS is crap at a lot of ISP's I was dealing with my girlfriends account with AOL Broadband and the service was terrible. My friends and family often have me call if they're having problems because in their words "I know what they're talking about" and it's just sad the way things are dealt with.


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