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Thunderballs 13-08-2008 22:02

Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Is anyone using these successfully and are they giving you better throughput than wireless ?

Tezcatlipoca 13-08-2008 22:09

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Moved to "Networking".

danielf 13-08-2008 22:11

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderballs (Post 34620789)
Is anyone using these successfully and are they giving you better throughput than wireless ?

I use them, and they are very good. Regarding throughput: it depends. Mine are rated 84MBps, but the protocol overhead is quite high. I get get about 20MBps max from them. The big advantage over wireless is stability rather than speed. I used to get dropouts on wireless, and they are a thing of the past.

Thunderballs 13-08-2008 22:25

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Would it be feasible to run a switch off one of these 200MBps units connected to say 10 pcs and at the other end connect to a router via a second 200MBPs homeplug.

My network is 10/100 atm with cat5 connecting my switch to my router and I dont have any speed issues with what i need my pcs to do.

brundles 13-08-2008 22:29

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
I doubt there would be any issues with the setup, but bandwidth may be an issue if those 10 pcs are all fairly heavy bandwidth users.

danielf 13-08-2008 22:32

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderballs (Post 34620811)
Would it be feasible to run a switch off one of these 200MBps units connected to say 10 pcs and at the other end connect to a router via a second 200MBPs homeplug.

My network is 10/100 atm with cat5 connecting my switch to my router and I dont have any speed issues with what i need my pcs to do.

Why not go wireless at the other end :)

http://www.devolo.co.uk/uk_EN/produk...lessextsk.html

I am typing this on my lappy which connects wirelessly to my homeplug access point, which connects to the router over the power lines. The router is upstairs, and the homeplug access point provides wireless cover on the ground floor.

Thunderballs 13-08-2008 22:33

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Thanks for the advice. I guess I will only know if i try it.

Damned expensive option mind you even though prices of thes e things have dropped.

On a related issue are there many power over ethernet devices around atm or do you buy kits to convert suitable perfierals etc ?

whydoIneedatech 13-08-2008 22:37

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Just put " home plugs" into google

Thunderballs 13-08-2008 22:39

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34620819)
Why not go wireless at the other end :)

http://www.devolo.co.uk/uk_EN/produk...lessextsk.html

I am typing this on my lappy which connects wirelessly to my homeplug access point, which connects to the router over the power lines. The router is upstairs, and the homeplug access point provides wireless cover on the ground floor.

Yes I looked at that. I am just not a big fan of wireless although it is in my current set up.

I tend to need a solid connection and more throughput than i can get on wireless.

The wireless option you mention would be a good choice for a lot of people though - Obviously it would be easy to stick an in expensive switch on the end for those connections you wanted a hard wire.

danielf 13-08-2008 22:41

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderballs (Post 34620821)
Thanks for the advice. I guess I will only know if i try it.

Damned expensive option mind you even though prices of thes e things have dropped.

Yes, I bought my kit 10 months ago, and paid £120 at the time :shocked:

It's been rock solid mind, so it was money well spent.

Quote:

On a related issue are there many power over ethernet devices around atm or do you buy kits to convert suitable perfierals etc ?
I'm not sure what you mean here. The homeplug device has an ethernet port that you plug peripherals into (or wireless capability with th kit I have)

Thunderballs 13-08-2008 22:45

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34620832)
Yes, I bought my kit 10 months ago, and paid £120 at the time :shocked:

It's been rock solid mind, so it was money well spent.



I'm not sure what you mean here. The homeplug device has an ethernet port that you plug peripherals into (or wireless capability with th kit I have)


I mean power of ethernet not ethernet over power. So devices that drw their power supply via an ethernet cable.

gazee 25-08-2008 16:21

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
I,ve just bought the Solwise pl220av PUSH adapters to run my cable connection to the top floor of my 3 storey terraced house. I just plugged them in and pressed the button on both ,running up 2 flights of stairs and VOILA the connection was made, fantastic.
I thought I may not see my full speed of nearly 10 meg going thru old wiring and all that BUT when I ran my favourite speedtest it was as near as dammit the same .I,m really well chuffed,Expensive relatively,but what price is put on a secure connection.

Kymmy 25-08-2008 16:35

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
I remember this was being discussed about 8 years back when NorWeb was doing trails at providing an internet connection along the mains supply.. I know they had problems with the signal radiating and due to no encryption meant that people could spy on the connection... Does the current ethernet on the ring mains have encryption?? just that you are passing data along a large non-shielded or non-twisted antenna ;)

Jon T 25-08-2008 17:06

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34626547)
I remember this was being discussed about 8 years back when NorWeb was doing trails at providing an internet connection along the mains supply.. I know they had problems with the signal radiating and due to no encryption meant that people could spy on the connection... Does the current ethernet on the ring mains have encryption?? just that you are passing data along a large non-shielded or non-twisted antenna ;)

Have you read about how OFCOM maybe investigating these devices due to the large amount of broadband RF they emit?

JUst let someone set a network up like this anywhere near me, they can moan all they want, but if I happen to transmit at a frequency and power that I am licensed for, then they'll just have to suffer their network going down regularly.

Sorry, but manufactures of devices capable of emitting RF can't just design their devices to transmit where they want, they also get it in to their heads that even if a device doesn't interfere with with me, I could still interfere with it while still remaining perfectly legal myself.

Taken from a well know Amateur Radio site: "There are alternatives to this technology, wired or wireless solutions. UK regulator Ofcom are logging complaints as spectrum abuse and it's known that in three cases the adaptors have been removed by BT following complaints to Ofcom."

Kymmy 25-08-2008 17:09

Re: Ethernet over Power Adapters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34626573)
Have you read about how OFCOM maybe investigating these devices due to the large amount of broadband RF they emit?

JUst let someone set a network up like this anywhere near me, they can moan all they want, but if I happen to transmit at a frequency and power that I am licensed for, then they'll just have to suffer their network going down regularly.

Sorry, but manufactures of devices capable of emitting RF can't just design their devices to transmit where they want, they also get it in to their heads that even if a device doesn't interfere with with me, I could still interfere with it while still remaining perfectly legal myself.

Taken from a well know Amateur Radio site: "There are alternatives to this technology, wired or wireless solutions. UK regulator Ofcom are logging complaints as spectrum abuse and it's known that in three cases the adaptors have been removed by BT following complaints to Ofcom."

Please supply a link might have fun myself :p:

;)


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