Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement
 

With the Democratic nomination looking reasonably secure for Obama the republicans have fired the first negative attack at him. Bush said that Obama's desire to talk to groups like Hamas is akin to the appeasement of the Nazis, such as Chamberlain did with Hitler in Munich. He did this in Israel, which I think is no accident.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...ast/index.html

Not only is this a real dirty and unfair attack, but it's also illogical. Hamas are not akin to Nazi Germany in any way, the entire thing is different, the only apt comparison you could make is to the IRA. It's a weak comparison but certainly better than Nazi germany and the only reason that analogy was not used was because talking to the IRA did work.

There is also a difference between talking to groups like Hamas and appeasement. Does Bush know what appeasement is? Do Americans? What Chamberlain did was appeasement (although he should not be demonised for trying, it's easy attack that in hindsight) but what Obama and Carter are advocating is simply entering a dialogue with a group that controls palestinian.

:rolleyes:

It's a long time till November..

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Can a mod correct the title? "Bush accuses Obama of appeasement" would be fine or at least the correction of Chamberling to Chamberlain. Cheers

Re: Bush compares Obama to Chamberling
 

Well it was Churchill who said:

But ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2223075.stm

Mind you, it was a long time ago.

Re: Bush compares Obama to Chamberling
 

More akin to Tony Blair talking to Jerry Adams or Reagan talking to Gorbachev and look where that led...

Re: Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement
 

Obama doesn't actually have a desire to talk to Hamas - he has only said that he would be willing to talk to Iran's President.

The story you've linked to doesn't actually mention Obama at all - and reads to me more like Bush is criticising Jimmy Carter, seeing as Ex-President Carter *has* actually talked to Hamas.

Although Obama has still taken it as an attack on him:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7403386.stm


I've changed it to "Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement".

Re: Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement
 

This is amusing -sorta

Re: Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement
 

Anyone seen this doc they was on about in tat clip?
Pathway to 9/11 ?
Any chance of a link if anyone has it?

Re: Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement
 

Does my head in the way they all shout all the time.

Re: Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement
 

Well Iran would surely be part of the appeasement thing bush was talking about? McCain has also accused Obama of being the favoured candidate of Hamas

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...ems/index.html

Re: Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement
 

George Bush is a bloody idiot though. Example: if you want the Saudis to go against their national interest* and boost oil production to help the American public fill their SUVs, don't go to Israel first and tell the Knesset how wonderful they are. The sheikhs don't like that sort of thing. Not surprising they told him to eff off, frankly.

* Keeping it in the ground keeps the price high. It's not like it goes off if you don't pump it out, and oil prices are only going to get higher.

Re: Obama accuses Bush of accusing him of appeasement
 

well (snigger) this article suggests oil is edible by bacteria

http://www.csrees.usda.gov/newsroom/..._bacteria.html

so best sell it all before the bugs eat it ;) :D