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budwieser 25-02-2008 22:50

Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally s*** now?
I keep looking at the papers and reading the news and the whole country has gone tits up i think.
We pay so much tax and it just seems that the immigrants get more than the hard working taxpayer who was born in this country. Am i wrong?
I work hard, probably about 55 hours a week and i`m taxed £700.00 a month on it. On top of that, i`m paying the tax on fuel, food everything else and council tax, when does it come to an end?:mad::rolleyes:
When do we actually get something back that benefits us?

downquark1 25-02-2008 22:59

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Don't watch/read the mainstream news. Everything seems brighter when you don't.

Hugh 25-02-2008 23:01

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
I like this country, and wouldn't want to leave it (and I have had job offers in the USA, NZ, and others).

I don't have a problem paying tax , which goes towards education, hospitals, and helping those less well off; just because a minority abuse it, doesn't mean it is wrong (imho).

I have got back
a) a reasonable standard of education for both my children
b) good health care for me and my family when needed
c) reasonable infrastructure for day to day living (council services, etc)
d) democratic (mostly) government
e) nice neighbours and friends

So in answer to your question,
a) No, I don't think this country is totally poo now
b) I have got lots back that benefits me and my family

idi banashapan 25-02-2008 23:40

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 34495583)
Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally s*** now?
I keep looking at the papers and reading the news and the whole country has gone tits up i think.
We pay so much tax and it just seems that the immigrants get more than the hard working taxpayer who was born in this country. Am i wrong?
I work hard, probably about 55 hours a week and i`m taxed £700.00 a month on it. On top of that, i`m paying the tax on fuel, food everything else and council tax, when does it come to an end?:mad::rolleyes:
When do we actually get something back that benefits us?

i agree - if I were able to save enough money to move away, I would. unfortunately, I get taxed so much and pay all the rest on overpriced bills and produce, that I can't escape the Rubicon of the UK!!!

Enuff 25-02-2008 23:50

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Bad news sells.

Is there a way out of the rat race?

Maggy 26-02-2008 00:18

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Bah!Things were much worse in the 70's.

Xaccers 26-02-2008 00:45

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34495635)
Bah!Things were much worse in the 70's.

True, just look at the fashion! :D

v0id 26-02-2008 02:10

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas (Post 34495635)
Bah!Things were much worse in the 70's.

There was none of this political correctness *******s

Xaccers 26-02-2008 02:15

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 34495656)
There was none of this political correctness *******s

Really? Wasn't "women's lib" around in the 70's then?

RizzyKing 26-02-2008 03:58

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
While i agree with some of what the op says i think the bit about immigrants could have been left out.

Mr_love_monkey 26-02-2008 07:11

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34495594)

I have got back
a) a reasonable standard of education for both my children

Would you feel happy if you were starting out now? - do you not feel education has gone down hill?

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34495594)
b) good health care for me and my family when needed

Hmm.. pretty much luck of the draw though, isn't it? hospital conditions are terrible (depending on where you go), they're unclean (we recently went, and the consultant had to spend 5 minutes cleaning blood off one of the pull down lights from the ceiling that seems to have been there for days)

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34495594)
c) reasonable infrastructure for day to day living (council services, etc)

Hmm.. can't disagree with you too much there - but it is pricey - but I guess you can't have reasonable service and get it for free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34495594)
d) democratic (mostly) government

democratically elected anyway :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34495594)
e) nice neighbours and friends

That's funny, your neighbours didn't seem so keen :)

Osem 26-02-2008 07:56

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
It seems to me that most of the problems in this country are in large part due to the increasing demand for services by an increasing population. Immigration and longevity are both factors in that - it's just a pity HMG didn't consider those things when making some of their major decisions.

I know quite a few well edcuated professional people who've emigrated and more are heading that way - these are not the sort of people UK can afford to lose!

Nugget 26-02-2008 08:54

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 34495583)
Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally s*** now?
I keep looking at the papers and reading the news and the whole country has gone tits up i think.
We pay so much tax and it just seems that the immigrants get more than the hard working taxpayer who was born in this country. Am i wrong?
I work hard, probably about 55 hours a week and i`m taxed £700.00 a month on it. On top of that, i`m paying the tax on fuel, food everything else and council tax, when does it come to an end?:mad::rolleyes:
When do we actually get something back that benefits us?

In fairness bud, if you're paying 700 quid tax a month, then you're earning far more than any immigrant who's come to the country to find work :shrug:

BBKing 26-02-2008 09:11

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Quote:

I keep looking at the papers and reading the news
There, I suspect, is your problem. Which papers? Try this for size:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...ws-780672.html

Quote:

Am i wrong?
If you base your opinions on the papers I think you base them on, it's a nailed on certainty.

chickendippers 26-02-2008 10:04

Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?
 
Yes, it is just you.

I'm currently wracking up a nice £20,000 debt just to educate myself, but I'd still rather do it in the UK then anywhere else.


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