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punky 31-10-2007 10:22

Important: Ubuntu can hurt laptop disks
 
An important bug picked up for the Ubuntu laptop users here:

Quote:

When switching to battery power, /etc/acpi/power.sh issues the command hdparm -B 1 to all block devices. This leads to extremely frequent load cycles. For example, my new thinkpad has already done well over 7000 load cycles -- in only 100 hours. That's at least one unloading per minute. Googling for "load unload cycles notebook OR laptop" shows that most laptop drives handle up to 600,000 such cycles.

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Confirmed also with my Hitachi HTS541210H9SA00 (which has used up 10% of its life in less than a month :( ).
There's instructions on how to change the default values. It only affects laptops because it happens when switching to battery mode.

xpod 31-10-2007 12:10

Re: Important: Ubuntu can hurt laptop disks
 
I have 4 spare drives at the ready with the money i saved not buying Vista;)

Heres a related discussion over at UF though.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=596602&page=3

OOPs

EDIT:
http://www.advogato.org/person/mjg59/diary/82.html

Lots of interesting reading out there.
Plus, it`s always a good excuse for a poll:)
http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/sh...ght=laptop+bug

dragon 31-10-2007 14:14

Re: Important: Ubuntu can hurt laptop disks
 
Backup your importatant data (the number of people that don't :rolleyes:)

If the harddrive is in warrenty its not a problem if it does die becuase the manufacturer will have to replace it.

If its not then considering most warrentys are at least 3years you've had a resonable life out of it... and drives are getting cheaper all the time.

Hard-drives are not as fragile as people think.
Of course dropping them when they're spinning is never a good idea.

xpod 31-10-2007 15:11

Re: Important: Ubuntu can hurt laptop disks
 
If this is(?) some kind of "default settings" the hardware manufacturers themselves are provinding in bios`s & fw`s then i wonder just how many folks....with their 6 & 12 month warrantys are finding those darn hardrives dying out after a first year or so.

The cynic in me would say that sounds like perfect timing, for the HW suppliers of course.

Either way,i think the thread title is potentially a little misleading.

keithwalton 31-10-2007 15:29

Re: Important: Ubuntu can hurt laptop disks
 
Alot of hard drives these days have 1 year warrenties, and i read this 'feature' would kill a hard drive at min 12 months so could be slightly more and thus out of warrenty.

It seems odd that manufacturers would set the drives to spin up/down every minute on battery power

xpod 31-10-2007 15:31

Re: Important: Ubuntu can hurt laptop disks
 
Quote:

I’m a big fan of Ubuntu. I don’t want to see Ubuntu hurt because it’s not Ubuntu who is setting these aggressive power management defaults.
The last 2 or 3 posts in this this thread over at UF may clarify things a little and help those who are possibly worried about this(from an Ubuntu point of view) determine wether their own drives suffer from the issue.


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