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Womble 23-06-2007 07:39

Payouts for early-release prisoners
 
Has the world gone completely mad?? Or is it just Blairs Govt?

Prisoners released early are to receive a cash payout of up to £172 to compensate them for loss of bed and board, the Government has said.

http://www.channel4.com/news/article...isoners/571047

Paul K 23-06-2007 07:59

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Why does nothing about this situation surprise me?

TheDaddy 23-06-2007 08:14

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34334292)
Has the world gone completely mad?? Or is it just Blairs Govt?

Prisoners released early are to receive a cash payout of up to £172 to compensate them for loss of bed and board, the Government has said.

http://www.channel4.com/news/article...isoners/571047

I think it's a good idea, considering they can't claim the dole until their formal release date, what are the other options, let them use it as an excuse to commit crime?

Bill C 23-06-2007 08:18

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34334295)
Why does nothing about this situation surprise me?

So this is a taster of Browns Government, I said he would be as bad as The poodle if not worse :Yikes:

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34334299)
I think it's a good idea, considering they can't claim the dole until their formal release date, what are the other options, let them use it as an excuse to commit crime?

Fine if they commit another crime put them back in, How hard can that be.

TheDaddy 23-06-2007 08:19

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Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34334302)
Fine if they commit another crime put them back in, How hard can that be.

Pretty hard, considering thats why they are being let out early in the first place

Bill C 23-06-2007 08:24

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34334304)
Pretty hard, considering thats why they are being let out early in the first place


Then we need to be building more prisons or buying prison ships, This so called Government needs to stop wasting tax payers money on illegal wars and start spending that money on this country's pressing needs.

JackB 23-06-2007 08:27

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"The maximum amount of cash that prisoners will be released with is £172.24. The cost will be around £4.5million this financial year."
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The overall aim is to reduce the numbers behind bars at any one time by 1,200, so - with the courts currently jailing people faster than those who have completed their sentence are being released - the policy will remain in place indefinitely.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

Bill, they are building prisons now but they should have done it much earlier instead of advising courts to stop sending all but the most serious offenders to prison.

Bill C 23-06-2007 08:33

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Originally Posted by JackB (Post 34334308)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

Bill, they are building prisons now but they should have done it much earlier instead of advising courts to stop sending all but the most serious offenders to prison.

If only i could win the lottery, I would be out of this **** hole faster than a greased Wiesel down a ferret hole.

Ramrod 23-06-2007 10:06

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Personally, if I was in jail, I would be happy to pay the govt to be released early.
What does it say about UK jails that prisoners are to be compensated for being let out early? Is it a bit like compensation for your holiday being cut short? :disturbd:

TheDaddy 23-06-2007 10:14

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34334338)
Personally, if I was in jail, I would be happy to pay the govt to be released early.
What does it say about UK jails that prisoners are to be compensated for being let out early? Is it a bit like compensation for your holiday being cut short? :disturbd:

I think most prisoners would pay to be released early as well, if they could ;)

Calling it 'compensation' sounds like a cheap tabloid headline to me, what are prisoners expected to live on upon release, lets give them a chance to sort their lives out and if they screw it up they have no one to blame but themselves

RXP 23-06-2007 11:18

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We should firstly be asking ourselves the unaskable question: why are we in a prison crisis? Why is the prison population swelling? When we address the causes, no more prisons will need to be built. Of course, this never enters the main stream press where we are presented the only solution "BUY PRISON SHIPS".

Otherwise we'll end up like the US which incarcerates more people than anywhere in the world, even though it has fewer population than most places.

This sounds like a good idea to me, otherwise an ex-con, newly released would just go out and commit another crime to get some money. Rehab is what prison ought to be about.

BBKing 23-06-2007 11:41

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What does it say about UK jails that prisoners are to be compensated for being let out early?
Not so much compensated as being given money to live on as we can't find prison places for them. The real scandal is why there aren't enough prison places, which stems from the question of why we sent so many more people to prison in the first place. It seems our kneejerk punishment mindset in this country is incapable of thinking through the consequences of our decisions.

RXP - :tu:

Xaccers 23-06-2007 12:28

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Remember, last time we tried shipping prisoners off to an island, they retaliated and gave us Neigbours!



Just to make sure I understand, prisoners released early aren't able to get JSA etc until their original release date right?
So they're given up to £172 (I'm right in thinking that many get less than that yeah?) to cover that period so they don't have to resort to crime to survive yeah?
And the £172 is less than it would cost for them to remain inside?
So, what's the problem?

Are people objecting to early release prisoners being given an alternative to crime?

TheDaddy 23-06-2007 12:32

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34334437)
Remember, last time we tried shipping prisoners off to an island, they retaliated and gave us Neigbours!

More like, they retaliated and won't let most of us move there :D

Russ 23-06-2007 12:40

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I suppose we should be grateful that the "lock'em up and throw away the key" gang aren't in control of the country - think about how much cash would be given out then.


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