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iglu 17-06-2007 12:15

New router 1G
 
I am thinking of getting the Netgear wireless 1G router + a couple of 1G switches.

Has anyone experience with Cat 5 and 1G networking? Re-wiring with cat 5e or cat 6 can be time consuming.

What is the status of the new "n" standard? Approved or still draft? Do the pre-n routers have trouble connecting to g cards?

Jon T 17-06-2007 12:21

Re: New router 1G
 
Cat 5e is good for 1 gigabit

GeoffW 17-06-2007 12:27

Re: New router 1G
 
By 1G do you mean a Gigabit Lan? I'm not sure why you want that much bandwidth at home, but you'll need cat 5e.

802.11n is not due to be standardised till this time next year and is not compatibile with b or g, although some pre-N kit may have g support as well.

iglu 17-06-2007 13:40

Re: New router 1G
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffW (Post 34330068)
By 1G do you mean a Gigabit Lan? I'm not sure why you want that much bandwidth at home, but you'll need cat 5e.

802.11n is not due to be standardised till this time next year and is not compatibile with b or g, although some pre-N kit may have g support as well.

So Cat5 is "no go" with Gigabit Lan :(

I need the bandwidth for uploading laptop backup files to the server, 2 kids watching movies stored on the server but basically, a gigabit switch is only 22 quid and my current router was playing up...

GeoffW 17-06-2007 17:04

Re: New router 1G
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34330097)
So Cat5 is "no go" with Gigabit Lan :( .

Not at all, it's just that if you were going to cable up a new network then you'd choose cat5e. If you have a network already, the odds are that cat5 will be fine on all but the longest runs if all 4 pairs are wired. Certainly a patch cord to a server should be OK.

Jon T 17-06-2007 20:50

Re: New router 1G
 
Quote:

Cat 5e - Same as Category 5, except that it is made to somewhat more stringent standards (see comparison chart below). The Category 5 E standard is now officially part of the 568A standard. Category 5 E is recommended for all new installations, and was designed for transmission speeds of up to 1 gigabit per second (Gigabit Ethernet).
taken from http://www.lanshack.com/cat5e-tutorial.aspx

popper 18-06-2007 00:23

Re: New router 1G
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffW (Post 34330068)
By 1G do you mean a Gigabit Lan? I'm not sure why you want that much bandwidth at home, but you'll need cat 5e.

802.11n is not due to be standardised till this time next year and is not compatibile with b or g, although some pre-N kit may have g support as well.

justifying 1GigE is dead easy today, just one example, a simple home NAS can make very good use of it http://www.freenas.org/

sorry but your mistaken, todays cat5 is perfectly fine for 1GigE
anything after 1995 infact.
http://broadcastengineering.com/mag/...rnet_primer_2/
"
Cat 5 cable compatibility

There is some confusion within the broadcast community about whether you can use your existing Cat 5 cable with 1000Base-T.

Cat 5 cable manufactured prior to 1995 may not meet the technical requirements for GigE.

This can result in unreliable operation. Cable manufactured in 1995 may work, depending on whether it meets the revised Cat 5 specifications that were standardized in that year.

Cat 5 cable manufactured after 1995 should work just fine. Cat 5e (the “e” stands for extended) will work fine regardless of the year it was manufactured, and of course, cables with a higher Cat designation will also work fine. If in doubt, you should contact the cable manufacturer."

and cat5E (cat6 is better OC) upto 10Gbit in the small runs you find in most users homes , not that its easy or cheap to get 10GigE cards today for most users.
http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=73174
"2005
SAN DIEGO and IRVINE, Calif. -- Vativ Technologies and SMC(r) Networks announced today that Vativ's 10Gigabit Ethernet over CAT-5e cable technology has been selected by SMC for use with their high-performance switch products. Using Vativ's industry-leading V10LAN transceiver device, SMC will be able to offer flexible, low-cost, interconnect solutions operating at 10Gbps over ubiquitous CAT-5e cabling. "

and 11n IS backward compatable with 11g and b , its part of the standard, however, its still not a good move to mix 11n with the slower kit, just as its not wise to mix 11g with 11b kit...

do not mix them directly or whats the point of upgrading,
wired router/switch the old and new wireless routers/ap if you most.... and keep the wireless for the fastest grouped kit,11b to11b, 11g to 11g, 11a to11a, 11n to 11n

OC still having only 3 clear non overlapping channel spaces doent help, they should have made it officially more and a wider band, but they didnt so find a way to work with what you have.
http://www.wi-fi.org/files/kc/WFA_80...mers_May07.pdf
"
Backward Compatibility
Although 802.11n is the very latest in Wi-Fi technology, there’s no doubt that consumers will have legacy devices (802.11a, b, or g) on their home networks that they’ll want to connect as well. Wi-Fi CERTIFIED 802.11n draft 2.0 products work with 802.11a/b/g gear too, though users won’t get all of the performance benefits of 802.11n when using it with older Wi-Fi products. Consumers should use the Wi-Fi


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Quote:

Originally Posted by iglu (Post 34330059)
I am thinking of getting the Netgear wireless 1G router + a couple of 1G switches.

Has anyone experience with Cat 5 and 1G networking? Re-wiring with cat 5e or cat 6 can be time consuming.

What is the status of the new "n" standard? Approved or still draft? Do the pre-n routers have trouble connecting to g cards?

what model router and switches, you need to supply more info and your average needs/use.

not a problem, if your cat5 is newer than 1995.

its now draft2, testing is ongoing, and its offically unlikely to change before final approval now.


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