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DocDutch 14-06-2007 22:18

are they using Vista there???
 
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/0...eref=rss_space



I soo hope not :O

greencreeper 14-06-2007 22:21

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Nah - it's Russia. It'll be Windows NT.

DocDutch 14-06-2007 22:22

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
thats more reliable GC ;)

might be as its russian then be a hacked copy of Win 98SE or worse ME :O

Stuart 14-06-2007 22:44

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
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Originally Posted by greencreeper (Post 34328567)
Nah - it's Russia. It'll be Windows NT.

Seeing as how the Shuttle (a couple of years back at least) was still using 286s, I'd be surprised if they are running anything newer than Windows 3.1

Xaccers 14-06-2007 23:20

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
I thought they'd upgraded the shuttles to 4 486's each?

Stuart 14-06-2007 23:21

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Probably, it was a couple of years back I read that.

Xaccers 14-06-2007 23:23

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
I love how they each check the others, and if there's a discrepency, they vote on which answer to go with! :D

LSainsbury 15-06-2007 07:24

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Sorry to disappoint - I believe they run Linux as the OS on the ISS.

And these are (were) the Shuttle's computers...

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34328627)
I love how they each check the others, and if there's a discrepency, they vote on which answer to go with! :D

Yeah - hope they are not women computers! :D

greencreeper 15-06-2007 18:23

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34328572)
thats more reliable GC ;)

Yeah. Just need to reboot each day, before it runs out of virtual memory and falls over...

Shaun 15-06-2007 18:43

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34328627)
I love how they each check the others, and if there's a discrepency, they vote on which answer to go with! :D

Appart from when teo break and then they flip a virtual coin!!!:erm:

Quote:

In the rare case of two out of four computers simultaneously failing (a two-two split), one group is picked at random.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle

And according to Wikipedia they run HAL :confused:

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The software for the Shuttle computers is written in a high-level language called HAL/S, somewhat similar to PL/I. It is specifically designed for a real time embedded system environment.

The IBM AP-101 computers originally had about 424 kilobytes of magnetic core memory each. The CPU could process about 400,000 instructions per second. They have no hard disk drive and load software from magnetic tape cartridges.

In 1990 the original computers were replaced with an upgraded model AP-101S, which has about 2.5 times the memory capacity (about 1 megabyte) and three times the processor speed (about 1.2 million instructions per second). The memory was changed from magnetic core to semiconductor with battery backup.

greencreeper 15-06-2007 18:49

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Oxygen? I'm afraid I can't do that...

BBKing 15-06-2007 20:51

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
I'm not sure what's more worrying - a space station computer that falls over all the time so you have plenty of experience at fixing it, or one that never fails except at that one crucial moment...

vbnmu 19-06-2007 04:03

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greencreeper (Post 34328567)
Nah - it's Russia. It'll be Windows NT.

Putin was very angry that us, the West, don't take Russia seriously. And his speech was addressed to Bush Jr.
Beware Cable Forum...

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Talking of computer that fails...on BBC1 last night there was this programme about fishing boats out at sea. One of the ships had a problem with it's PC and were on their way back to shore.
The boat engineer apparently played with a few cables and the whole thing was sorted!

Anonymouse 19-06-2007 06:38

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34328627)
I love how they each check the others, and if there's a discrepency, they vote on which answer to go with! :D

Similar to the 'I tell you three times' backup strategy Heinlein wrote about as far back as Space Family Stone (1952). The ballistics computer of the Rolling Stone had three lobes (nodes, we'd call 'em now), each of which was capable of solving the entire problem of navigating, say, from Luna to Mars. If one produced answers radically different from the other two, or failed, the two properly functioning lobes would outvote it and cut it off.

However, I imagine they're using heuristic (or, if you like, best guess) techniques now which weren't even dreamed of back then; that's how they decide which answer to go with. 2001's HAL, of course, had entirely heuristic programming, hence the acronym: Heuristic ALgorithmic.

It's still strange to think that the entire computing power of Apollo's Mission Control could now be outdone by a fairly cheap laptop...


greencreeper 19-06-2007 08:52

Re: are they using Vista there???
 
Bit like Minority Report then, I guess :erm:

And no one got my subtle Hal joke. Just too sharp for you all :D


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