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Virgin Mary 21-01-2007 18:26

Foreign TV
 
Russ B closed a thread, when somebody mentioned watching Foreign TV.

It appears that there are several p2p programs and some other software (is that p2p too?) to watch foreign tv.

What is illegal about it?

Can I watch abc/cbs/nbc news legaly? why not

Can I watch ESPN legally?

How can Skype can claim that is the first to bring p2p tv?

How do they stream it? A camera in front of the TV or hijacking the digital stream?

Please do not put any illegal (why?) links that will make the mods lock this thread...

cookie_365 21-01-2007 19:28

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202656)
Russ B closed a thread, when somebody mentioned watching Foreign TV.

It appears that there are several p2p programs and some other software (is that p2p too?) to watch foreign tv.

What is illegal about it?

I need to start counting the number of times I refer to the Copyright, Designs And Patents Act 1988 on this forum :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202656)
Can I watch abc/cbs/nbc news legaly? why not

Assuming they haven't given their permission, no. Add one to the count.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202656)
Can I watch ESPN legally?

Assuming they haven't given their permission, no. Add another one to the count.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202656)
How can Skype can claim that is the first to bring p2p tv?

Where have Skype claimed this? Source?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202656)
How do they stream it? A camera in front of the TV or hijacking the digital stream??

Probably hire lots of really good artists, give them lots of coloured pencils, sit them in front of the telly and get them to draw very very fast what appears on the screen ;)

Virgin Mary 22-01-2007 08:26

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie_365 (Post 34202705)
I need to start counting the number of times I refer to the Copyright, Designs And Patents Act 1988 on this forum :rolleyes:



Assuming they haven't given their permission, no. Add one to the count.



Assuming they haven't given their permission, no. Add another one to the count.

What are talking about? :rolleyes:

ABC/CBS/NBC are free channels in the US....

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Originally Posted by cookie_365 (Post 34202705)
Where have Skype claimed this? Source?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6266391.stm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie_365 (Post 34202705)
Probably hire lots of really good artists, give them lots of coloured pencils, sit them in front of the telly and get them to draw very very fast what appears on the screen ;)

:rolleyes:

Shaun 22-01-2007 08:29

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202970)
What are talking about? :rolleyes:

ABC/CBS/NBC are free channels in the US....



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6266391.stm



:rolleyes:

The BBCs free here but you're not supose to watch BBC1/2 outside the UK. :dozey:

Virgin Mary 22-01-2007 08:38

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34202973)
The BBCs free here but you're not supose to watch BBC1/2 outside the UK. :dozey:

Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. :)

Graham M 22-01-2007 09:06

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34202973)
The BBCs free here but you're not supose to watch BBC1/2 outside the UK. :dozey:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202977)
Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. :)

Huh!? I don't see how that's related.

AndyCambs 22-01-2007 09:13

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202977)
Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. :)

BBC News 24 is sold to other networks for broadcasting

Shaun 22-01-2007 10:40

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202977)
Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. :)

Because the licence for the programs is only for the UK. Sometimes they're only for England or Scotland (for example) - the other nation gets a different program . Either you really don't understand or you're trying to provoke a reastion from the members in this thread.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Basically it's so the program production company can make as much money as possible. If they let the BBC show their program all over Europe they couldn't sell it to all the other countries could they!

The same with DVD's Games etc.

Why do you think you don't get BBC Prime or BBC America here?

---------- Post added at 10:40 ---------- Previous post was at 10:40 ----------

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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202977)
Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. :)

....and I'm not talking about BBC News here am I?

cookie_365 22-01-2007 19:01

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202970)
What are talking about? :rolleyes:

ABC/CBS/NBC are free channels in the US....

I seem to recall that there are some bits of the planet that aren't in the US. And anyway, these channels won't be 'free' as such - the content producers will have signed contracts with certain broadcasters allowing them to broadcast the channels for free - they'll retain the rights to charge in every other market and on every other medium.

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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202970)

So it's not Skype that's doing this but some of the people who started Skype.

Going from that article it looks like it'll be like youtube only with fewer, original content producers, and presumably nothing worth watching except old stuff that doesn't attract any revenue any more. Can't see it being live streaming - who has the bandwidth for that, even these days?



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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34202970)
:rolleyes:

Couldn't have put it better myself ;)

lauzjp 22-01-2007 19:09

Re: Foreign TV
 
from what i've watched of foreign tv on the internet, most of it is even worse than our selection in the UK anyway?! :P

Wicked_and_Crazy 22-01-2007 20:12

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lauzjp (Post 34203450)
from what i've watched of foreign tv on the internet, most of it is even worse than our selection in the UK anyway?! :P

Not if you enjoy certain live sporting events that are not shown here

Virgin Mary 23-01-2007 07:19

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34203495)
Not if you enjoy certain live sporting events that are not shown here

Exactly. And if you are from Hong Kong living here, you will want to watch some "home" channels...

lauzjp 23-01-2007 08:57

Re: Foreign TV
 
hmm, well not being that big a sports fan I am quite happy with the selection of sporting events available to view in the uk. :)

danielf 23-01-2007 10:33

Re: Foreign TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34203495)
Not if you enjoy certain live sporting events that are not shown here

Or if you want to watch sporting events that are one Sky. Example: Champion's league and premiership matches that are broadcast on Sky in the UK are broadcast on terrestrial channels in some other countries. If you were to watch them on the internet Sky would not be too happy.

altis 23-01-2007 11:53

Re: Foreign TV
 
If you are seriously interested in foreign TV then I suggest you get a FTA satellite receiver and a dish with a motor. Assuming you have a good view of the sky then you'll probably be able to receive most FTA channels eminating from satellites between 55E and 30W - some 2000+ TV channels and 2000+ radio channels. Because they are Free-To-Air, this is all totally legal.

Check out the satellite and channel list here:
http://en.kingofsat.net/satellites.php?s=pos

Note that the table is arranged awkwardly. Look for satellites between 2E and 55E and then between 0.8W and 30W. 0 degrees East is the same as 0 degrees West.


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