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Suicidal inmate loses razors case
A prisoner on suicide watch has failed in a High Court bid for the right to be given razors to cut himself.

Jeffrey Watkins, an inmate at Rye Hill prison at Onley, Warwickshire, wanted to self-harm to relieve the stresses that could lead to him killing himself.

A judge ruled that the suggestion that he should be provided with the means to self-harm "flies in the face of what we regard as civilised standards".

Watkins made previous serious attempts to commit suicide, the court was told.

It is offensive to the individual, it is offensive to the (prison) staff and to the Prison Service and it flies in the face of what we regard as civilised standards

His counsel Flo Krause said Watkins, who is serving a life sentence, suffered from bipolar disorder, or manic depression, and had been a persistent self-harmer for many years.

Medical experts agreed that cutting himself "lifts his mood" by releasing endorphins into his system, thereby making suicide less likely.

Ms Krause said the Prison Service policy on self-harm and suicide was so "intrusive" that it was increasing stress and adding to the danger that Watkins would commit suicide.

She argued that he simply wanted sterile razor blades "to self-harm in a hygienic manner."

The judge rejected Watkins's bid for less supervision and to be left in the dark at night.

He said: "It is offensive to the individual, it is offensive to the (prison) staff and to the Prison Service and it flies in the face of what we regard as civilised standards".

Refusing Watkins permission to seek judicial review, the judge said his "stark and sad" case was "unarguable".



I can't even begin to imagine how much this would have cost to go to court, what a waste of taxpayers money and court time :rolleyes:

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Jeffrey Slasher Watkins. Thats his full name from what I've been told;) Years ago he used to work for Bic and Wilkingson Sword:D Guilette did reject him though:erm:

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omfg............You are right with the thread title there Marge! :rofl: :D
Is that guy a wind up merchant? :D

Oh fu*k off! :dozey:

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why cant they just give him the razors, lock him in a room for 24 hours and hope he's drowned in his own blood the next time they look. After all he ASKED for them

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I think the sadder problem here is that his person wants to cut himself with razors to help him stop killing himself :( Needs professional help. There is a problem with self-harm in this country
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The court case was a joke though :rolleyes:
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Wy dont we just bulid Suicide booths on every street

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I agree. One less to bother about.

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Here we go again! Around around we go, where it stops no-body knows. Whahahaha

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Damien,

you are quite right. Self harm is an increasing phenomenon - and there's not enough help out there.

Those who say "one less". Shutup.

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I fell sorry for the guy. It looks like the court stabbed him in the back:D

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pass me a razor :rolleyes:

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I hope you never need help for psychogical problem and get treated by someone with the same level of sympathy.

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Whilst I'll stay neutral on the subject of self-harm, what a complete waste of time and money in bringing this silly case to court. I wonder how long it will take for 'human rights' to be brought in to it :rolleyes:

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suicide watch is one of the oddest ideas in the world. every four hours, night and day, people enter the prisoner's cell to make sure they aren't trying to kill themselves. if they are asleep, they get woken up and checked over... quite harsh really! :Yikes:

self-harm and depression are very real problems that many people spend their lives struggling with - problems that are often very difficult to treat. i don't agree that they should be left to hurt themselves, as some have suggested here, nor should they be left to commit suicide. depressed people are very good at making themselves depressed, and it is likely that this failure to get what he wants will result in the prisoner in question becoming more desperate, and feel worse than ever.

P

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Um where did you get the idea that prison staff or any other fro that matter INVADE a persons privacy, unless they are doing themselves harm ?? The cell doors are genereally locked at night in a prison so you just get a flap to look through. The staff are NOT ALLOWED in unles they can see eveidence of self harm. THey most definetly don't wake them up !!

Same as in hospital. A suicidal pateinet nees care not confronting his behavour.

I agree that people with self harm., low self esteem and various other conditions including depression need help. At the HOme Office they have now brought in skilled psychologists, counsellors and a host of other qualified people to aid with reduction in suicide in prsons. We are stil waiting for funding in the NHS.

Sian

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so they don't do that? ah well, my mistake, lol! funnily enough, I actually heard it from a trainee psychologist working in a prison; come to think of it, we were all pretty drunk at the time, so I guess I have mis-remembered it, or she was exaggerating :)

having more trained people to help is definitely a good thing - it doesn't help though that it's so so so difficult to get into mental health work that only a tiny fraction of those who would like to do it actually end up doing it. those who do manage to succeed, are truly impressive individuals in their own right :D

P