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MovieMad 24-02-2005 17:09

New Job Kinda
 
I have been offered a trainning place with a company in N ireland if i pass the medical on monday . It is a bridge to employment thingy. The job that i wil be doing is Installation Technician after passing a 6 week traning course.


All iam looking to know is what does this job involves and do the guys that r doing it at the min like it or not any info on this would be brill.:D As far as i know it is bring wire from the box in the street into the users home etc ..

Kinda excited about it but knowing my luck it will all go tits up.

Thanks for reading this and to anyone that replys thank you ..



Reagrds
MovieMad



Ramrod 24-02-2005 17:24

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One of my patients is a business BB installer for ntl...........crappy job apparently but I suppose it's what you make of it :)

JohnHorb 24-02-2005 17:29

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:welcome: to the forum. Just wait for the post saying that if you have to pass a 6-week training course, the job can't be with NTL.;)

MovieMad 24-02-2005 17:40

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oh poo :mad: i was hoping to hear someone say it was a great job lol . Well i have never had a good job yet all crappy & crappy money etc. This to me is prob the best job i will ever get lol if only i had went to uni instead of wanting money to pee away lol :p: Oh well iam still a young 26 year old the job i want really is in IT only i droped out after 1 year cause i picked dam information technology when i really wanted a hands on job .

Thanks for the info m8 hope someone out there likes and and can tell me what they do from day to day ..
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lol john no its not with NTL its with a contractor that does most of ntls work over here in N ireland well so iam lead to belive .Thanks for the welcome.;)

paulyoung666 24-02-2005 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MovieMad
Thanks for the info m8 hope someone out there likes and and can tell me what they do from day to day ..


install cables maybe ;) , :welcome: to the site btw :) , seriously , assuming you are going to be going into customers houses then make sure you are polite , courteous and make sure you take your bloody boots offbefore entering :D :D , i reckon it is going to be what you make it , at the end of the day what have you got to lose by giving it a go ;) , good luck as well :tu:

Graham M 24-02-2005 17:44

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Feel better now Paul? :)

Earl of Bronze 24-02-2005 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MovieMad
I have been offered a trainning place with a company in N ireland if i pass the medical on monday . It is a bridge to employment thingy. The job that i wil be doing is Installation Technician after passing a 6 week traning course.


All iam looking to know is what does this job involves and do the guys that r doing it at the min like it or not any info on this would be brill.:D As far as i know it is bring wire from the box in the street into the users home etc ..

Kinda excited about it but knowing my luck it will all go tits up.

Thanks for reading this and to anyone that replys thank you ..



Reagrds
MovieMad



Who is the job gonna be with, ntl or the subcontractor McNicolas Construction ????

MovieMad 24-02-2005 17:53

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True paul iam always nice so that part will be easy for me :) . Yeah i will make it good if i get all they way . If i get it i have to drive 50 mile everyday so i better make it good .:D Thanks god i have adsl lol not ntl but if i get the job i will make all your connections 20 mb each in line with france and i wont impose a cap what so ever ..:D
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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze
Who is the job gonna be with, ntl or the subcontractor McNicolas Construction ????

Yeah Earl its with McNicolas Construction .

Earl of Bronze 24-02-2005 18:02

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
and make sure you take your bloody boots offbefore entering

Cant do that, its against Health and Safety Law to do so. Instead they give you crappy plastic overboots, which are deadly slippy on any interanl flooring.
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Originally Posted by MovieMad
True paul iam always nice so that part will be easy for me :) . Yeah i will make it good if i get all they way . If i get it i have to drive 50 mile everyday so i better make it good .:D Thanks god i have adsl lol not ntl but if i get the job i will make all your connections 20 mb each in line with france and i wont impose a cap what so ever ..:D
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Yeah Earl its with McNicolas Construction .

Good luck mate.......

I worked for them on the ntl contract, be ready to slog your guts out. I was talkin to one of the installer before crimbo and was told the install rate was to be cut to the installers (and it was already a joke when I was there). Six installers had been layed off, and more where to go in the new year because ntl couldnt get enough work for the lads to cover (though this may have changed). When I left October last year, ntl was in the middle of another round of job-cuts and thus dealing with the ntl staff in the affected offices was pants. No-one was interested in doing there job properly, so the installer ended up on the phone an extra one to two hours a day sorting out the arse that ntl staff had left things in. Again this may have changed, but I cant say for sure.

Also, the contract manager at McNicolas was not the easiest person to work for. Infact in my own case was a large part of why I left. But you never know how much things have changed since I bailed out of working for ntl....

MovieMad 24-02-2005 18:20

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Thanks for the info Earl that has helped alot as far a sloging my guts out well i dont mind getting dirty and doing a hard days graft as long as its worth it . Iam not sure how good the money will be but it said on the letter i got that it would be 325 plus a week i would say thats top line yeah ?.Even so thats the biggest wage i will have to date . If its not to much trouble could u tell me what they acctually do eg kango hammer lol etc i have not got a clue and is it mainly in new estates home or in businesses etc .Good job its not based on my english skills lol .:p: Oh and if still the same what was your hours of work there ? if i may ask ..


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MovieMad

Earl of Bronze 24-02-2005 20:13

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You will most likely be teamed up with a second person and operate as part of a two man, residential install team.

Basically you leave the yard at about 07.30 get to your first job some time after 08.00 and get stuck in. When you get to the install, you introduce yourselves to the sub (subscriber), agree cable-routes, placement of service points etc, then as a team pull the drop cable from the cab to the house. Once the cable is pulled you get all the required kit out of the van, and get the drop into the customers property. This is done by drilling through the boundry wall into the property and feeding the drop cable throught the hole from an access point in the footpath outside the subs house. If there is a garden you will be reguired to bury the drop upto 10 inches deep in boarders and 8 inches deep in the lawn. The drop cable is itself placed inside a length of green plastic flexi-duct to help protect it from customers spades. They love cutting the cable with spades. Once the cable is buried in the garden you may need to kango a track across any concrete or tarmac at the front of the house.

While the outside man is doing all the graft, the inside man will have drilled out throught the wall of the house. He will then feed out any internal cables required (catv for tv feed and telco for the phone line), we will then mouth any and all service points and clip any cable required to where the customers equipment is situated.

On the outside of the house over the drillout point a grey service point called an ETB is mounted (ETB = End or External Termination Box). Inside this box the drop cable and the internal cables are joined together. Any and all external reinstatement is done to return the subs property to as close a condition as before you started work.

Once all the connections are made at the house, the drop cable is connected at the cab. Once this final connection is made to the network, the inside man then connects up the digi decoder/ cable modem, checkes the phoneline, calls the hit to activate the digi stb. Tunes up the subs tv/ vcr, gives the demo and thn you boogie off to do it all over again. ;)

Last time I was talkin to any of the installers I think he said the two-man teams where doing 4 or 5 installs a day. No idea if thats the case now. If you do get the start in 6 weeks, hope you get Alex McAlister as your supervisor. Hes been at the job since ntl came to Belfast and is a sound bloke all in all.

Good luck no matter what happens, just say clear of Gerry the manager, the has the man management skills of a rabid dog. I'll prolly be talkin to Alex tomorrow, if so I'll ask some questions about the install quotas/ pay etc an PM to you if you wish.

sweaty 24-02-2005 20:50

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At least it's not Kelly Communications :Yikes:

Kelly + NTL = Laurel and Hardy :D

MovieMad 24-02-2005 21:39

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JE Earl cant belive u when to so much detail thanks a million for that now i have a great picture in my head about the job . And after all that iam still kinda excited about it yeah i have a crappy life if it wernt for alt binnary newsgroups i would be in a nut house lol . If you could find out pay and installs a day that would be great .What time did ya normally finish a day . Just want to know as my partner works on the lisburn rd and trying to find out if we could both get home and up to work together . What part belfast u from u never know i might have even had a pint with u before;) as thats where my partner is from . Christ so many questions iam asking sorry bud :D .Thanks a million for all your information m8 just what i needed .

paulyoung666 24-02-2005 21:40

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Originally Posted by sweaty
At least it's not Kelly Communications :Yikes:

Kelly + NTL = Laurel and Hardy :D


not bad for a second post , i wonder if you want to flesh it out a bit , or was it just a moan for the sake of it ;)

MovieMad 24-02-2005 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sweaty
At least it's not Kelly Communications :Yikes:

Kelly + NTL = Laurel and Hardy :D

lol not to sure about the rest as iam from maghera not down there m8 ;)


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