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Mauldor

14-01-2005 13:09

VBulletin + NTL proxy

I visit a few forums that use VBulletin (now version 3.0.5) and today I went on and it said:

Proxies are not allowed here, no identity masking allowed

This means he has put some Mod on to stop people coming in via proxies and thus report there real IP. Now this method obiuosly dont work too well as NTL have proxies and there is no way that springs to mind to get rid of it (I wish).

Anybody any ideas on either what I can do (probably not much) or something he can do, I know this is VB question but it also relates to NTL proxy use...

Jon M

14-01-2005 13:14

Re: VBuleetin + NTL proxy

NTL proxies are transparent.. they don't mask your IP (AFAIK)

Paul	14-01-2005 13:33

Re: VBulletin + NTL proxy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauldor

Anybody any ideas on either what I can do (probably not much) or something he can do, I know this is VB question but it also relates to NTL proxy use...

You cannot do anything since you have no choice. "He" can stop being such a <insert word> and turn off what ever he has added. It is perfectly possible to modify vB to record the real address of people using proxies (such as the transparent ntl ones). We use such a hack.

Mauldor

14-01-2005 15:40

Re: VBuleetin + NTL proxy

Quote:

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

NTL proxies are transparent.. they don't mask your IP (AFAIK)

Well on yet another forum where I am a Mod (also using VB) the IP it tells me im on is in fact the proxy not the real IP. The first forum I mentioned had a problem ages ago when he banned a person by IP and knocked out all the people on the same proxy as me.

The only thing I can do is email him and tell him of the problem, if he carries on with the said MOD then fine, nothing major lost, just one less forum to visit. I will do some digging into the Vbulletin side - though as Im not a Customer as such, how much I turn up will remain to be seen.

Paul, without giving too much away, can you post a link to VB forum where this is/was talked about, if nothing else I can help maybe with the forum that shows my IP as Proxy..

Thanks

Paul	14-01-2005 15:57

Re: VBuleetin + NTL proxy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauldor

Paul, without giving too much away, can you post a link to VB forum where this is/was talked about, if nothing else I can help maybe with the forum that shows my IP as Proxy..

Thanks

There is nothing secret about it > vB Proxy IP to Real IP Conversion Hack :)

altis

14-01-2005 16:10

Re: VBulletin + NTL proxy

Code:

<?php

     if (getenv(HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR)) {

    //get past a proxy addy

    $ip_str=getenv(HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR);

    } else {

    //normal ip addy

    $ip_str=getenv(REMOTE_ADDR);

    }

    ?>

;)

Mick	14-01-2005 16:48

Re: VBulletin + NTL proxy

Another thread in Useful Computer & IT Information forum, thats two today. Moved to Internet Forum area. The Useful forum area is for informational threads only. :)

I have to say its not a wise thing to do banning proxies, thats stopping some serious traffic visiting his site. Still they say some people like talking to themselves... ;)

Matth

14-01-2005 21:55

Re: VBulletin + NTL proxy

Paradoxically, unless banned directly by IP, it would probably pass what are termed "high anonymity" proxies...

The definition I found (I'd never heard the term before), was an anonymous proxy that does NOT give any evidence of being a proxy (other than if too many people come from one address, that may be a problem) - the standard anonymous proxy does admit to being a proxy.

MODS, please remove this if you'd rather, as I'm reluctant to make these easier to find, but:
http://www.aliveproxy.com/high-anonymity-proxy-list/
Open, high anonymity proxies - check one against your favourite proxy checker (eg. all-nettools) and it should NOT be able to detect a proxy.

Since you cannot escape proxying with NTL, this may be the only way to enter a site with a "no proxies" rule - you can see why I had second thouts before posting the link, as they make it very easy to subvert IP based access restrictions.

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