Routing problem to oversee's sites
 

Im having a rather annoying problem to sites abroad.

When I traceroute them, the problem appears to be outside the ntl network each time, but ive got a hunch that the problem is still related to ntl somehow.

I have a server in the US, and here are the results to it:

Now a trace FROM my server TO my ntl ip shows:

As you can see, the problem comes into play at hop 10, as it enters ntl's network (pop-bb-b-so-330-0.inet.ntl.com (208.185.188.42))

Also a trace to google.com:

and also a trace to the Virgin radio mp3 stream:

and to cap it off, microsoft.com:

So, yeah, although the ping hikes come after the ntl network, could this still be down to an issue on their side? I cant believe that the above 4 sites all have problems. It just seems too coincidental.

Maybe there is an overall 'peering to the US' problem?

Any help would be appreciated.

James :)

Re: Routing problem to oversee's sites
 

Update: Cant even reach Paypal.com whatsoever :S

Re: Routing problem to oversee's sites
 

The problem starts in between the US and UK, rather than at ntl, looks like a congested US-UK backbone, probably, :)

Re: Routing problem to oversee's sites
 

I'm getting almost identical traces and terrible throughput here as well.
Looks like something has gone wrong somewhere :(

Ian

Re: Routing problem to oversee's sites
 

2 of my traces:

Tracing route to geocities.com [66.218.77.68]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 7 ms 5 ms 10.82.176.1

2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms wapk-t2cam1-b-ge-wan41-112.inet.ntl.com [80.1.1

0.185]

3 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms popl-t2core-b-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [62.255.81.

41]

4 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms pop-bb-b-so-320-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.69]

5 226 ms 229 ms 230 ms so-3-0-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [208.185.188.41]

6 298 ms 299 ms 301 ms so-7-0-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.31.186]

7 300 ms 300 ms 301 ms so-0-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.29.122]

8 327 ms 330 ms 327 ms so-2-3-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.29.13]

9 326 ms 325 ms 329 ms so-0-0-0.cr1.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.209]

10 380 ms 372 ms 373 ms so-3-1-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.29.49]

11 374 ms 372 ms 372 ms pos6-0.mpr2.pao1.us.above.net [64.125.29.162]

12 372 ms 371 ms 372 ms pos2-0.mpr1.pao1.us.above.net [64.125.29.181]

13 373 ms 372 ms 370 ms yahoo-above-1.pao1.above.net [64.125.31.230]

14 157 ms 157 ms 159 ms vl10.bas1.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.64.134]

15 158 ms 158 ms 152 ms unknown-66-218-82-238.yahoo.com [66.218.82.238]

16 158 ms 372 ms 158 ms intl1.geo.vip.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.77.68]

Trace complete.

and


Tracing route to www.steampowered.com [69.28.175.115]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms 10.82.176.1

2 8 ms 6 ms 6 ms wapk-t2cam1-b-ge-wan41-112.inet.ntl.com [80.1.17

0.185]

3 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms popl-t2core-b-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [62.255.81.1

73]

4 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms pop-bb-b-so-320-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.69]

5 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms tele-ic-1-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.82]

6 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167]

7 303 ms 302 ms 298 ms ge0-3-0-8.jr1.iad.llnw.net [63.218.94.10]

8 375 ms 378 ms 375 ms so5-0-3.jr1.lax.llnw.net [69.28.172.18]

9 386 ms 382 ms 388 ms so7-5-0.jr1.phx1.llnw.net [69.28.172.62]

10 388 ms 390 ms 385 ms ge1-0-0-5.jr1.phx3.llnw.net [69.28.139.254]

11 388 ms 388 ms 384 ms www.steampowered.com [69.28.175.115]

Trace complete.

Re: Routing problem to oversee's sites
 

Traceroute from Easynews.com

HOST LOSS RCVD SENT BEST AVG WORST
ge2-8-1000m.sw1.easynews.com0%

10100.440.610.93ae0-4000m-core-02.phx1.puregig.net0%

10100.458.7481.72ge0-0-0-51.jr1.phx1.llnw.net0%

10109.0112.3026.23so7-0-0.jr1.lax.llnw.net0%

101011.1813.3422.37so7-3-0.jr1.sjc.llnw.net0%

101020.1521.3027.28ge-4-1-0.mpr1.sjc7.us.mfnx.net0%

101018.6224.5757.7364.125.30.1780%

101019.0421.6235.55so-3-3-0.cr1.dfw2.us.above.net0%

101075.4276.5283.88so-0-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net0%

101075.4080.9597.73so-2-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net0%

101074.8575.5878.7464.125.29.1210%

101074.8083.64112.61so-6-0-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.above.net0%

1010146.28149.67165.78pop-bb-b-so-330-0.inet.ntl.com10%

910371.41375.39378.85lee-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com10%

910370.38373.86376.41nth-bb-b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com10%

910373.91377.93382.00nrth-t2core-b-pos31.inet.ntl.com10%

910377.04378.83386.44nrth-cache-5.server.ntli.net10%

910373.33381.65408.82

The router most likely responsible for your slow downloads in owned by ntl.com.

I've been getting 25kB/s from a 192kB/s connection all day.
As for the cap/limit, call it what you will but IMO it is cynical in that, if you don't use it all on a day then it is lost. On the face of it 1gig a day looks to be on a par with 30gig a month but it is not. I note there are no refunds for only downloading 15gig a month cause your daily allowance don't roll over.

Since new TV menu came in I have to reboot my STB every day. Since the BB speed increases I have had intermittant problems of one type or another almost constantly.
Ntl's whole network seems to going to pot IMO.

Mick.