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Mike 31-07-2004 06:42

Miming songs on TV
 
Hi all

I get really annoyed when bands are advertised as live and then just mime. TOTP is classic at doing this. Why donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t we get rid of these crap †˜artistsâà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â€à …¾Ã‚¢ and get back to good old talent if you can not sing live then they should not appear. To say have have a dance rountine is no excuse as often they are just sat on chairs...... did not Brit Spears mime the way though the whole concert recently. I would much rather heard people live sing live then just sing along to their CD. You just know when you see the line up of such shows who will be miming and it always the manufactured groups/bands with no talent how have been put there because they look good and targeted at kids to sell the records.

Lets get back the good old music when bands are bands.

bopdude 31-07-2004 08:20

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I once went to see Edwin Starr ( I think it was ) it was a lot of years ago in a nightclub in Darlington. He started his set and it sounded so good that everyone thought he was miming, well he obviously picked up on the vibe, stopped the band and told us sraight, " ok, you guys think i'm miming, try this " the next thing he was telling us to clap our hands in a beat and then sang most of the set acapela, waaaay to good a voice, it was a brill gig and night, hats off to the guy.

I think he died recently, big loss of a great voice R.I.P

Earl of Bronze 31-07-2004 12:26

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Singing live is what 'live' music is all about. If a band/group isnt up to that challenge, then they have no right to be on a stage or selling records.

In my younger days I roadied for a couple of local bands, flew the PA etc, and well do I know that a singer can be a bit flat. Or a guitarist hit the wrong note/miss notes, but at the end of the gig, if its been a good set then the punters will forgive the band.

But if a bunch of good looking but tallentless waster only mime onstage, I wont be going to see them or buy their tackie pap. :2up:

Dave Stones 31-07-2004 13:37

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze
Singing live is what 'live' music is all about. If a band/group isnt up to that challenge, then they have no right to be on a stage or selling records.

In my younger days I roadied for a couple of local bands, flew the PA etc, and well do I know that a singer can be a bit flat. Or a guitarist hit the wrong note/miss notes, but at the end of the gig, if its been a good set then the punters will forgive the band.

But if a bunch of good looking but tallentless waster only mime onstage, I wont be going to see them or buy their tackie pap. :2up:

there was a thread on here a bit ago that mentioned something like this in passing, i am too lazy to search it out but im sure someone else will. it involved nirvana miming instruments on totp but singing live because they were supposed to... i dunno, i forget...

...anyway, since totp got that "revamp" wasn't everyone supposed to have to sing live on it?

i only watch live music as well, it kinda comes with the genre i listen to....:erm:

MadGamer 31-07-2004 13:53

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ghlight=miming :D :) ;)

Xaccers 31-07-2004 13:56

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I'm sure TOTP used to insist on miming because they couldn't handle all the different setups of the groups.
This was shown with Cliff getting fogged out and missing the words for laughing.
Thing is, it was pretty much common knowledge that TOTP demanded it rather than the groups, and thankfully they updated their system due to public pressure and now can cope with live bands.

We've lost the music and replaced it with fame.
Very few bands know how to play their insturments properly, opting for power chords or barchords on guitars, or backing tracks.
Song's no longer mean anything, and videos seem to be just a way for the group to live out their fantasies "oo I want to drive a ferrari, so lets have me driving one in the next vid, who cares if it's got nothing to do with the lyrics?"

Maggy 31-07-2004 15:24

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Song's no longer mean anything, and videos seem to be just a way for the group to live out their fantasies "oo I want to drive a ferrari, so lets have me driving one in the next vid, who cares if it's got nothing to do with the lyrics?"

:tu:

poolking 31-07-2004 15:29

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Thats what most of the pop idol winners do is mime. :D

Chimaera 31-07-2004 15:55

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Originally Posted by poolking
Thats what most of the pop idol winners do is mime. :D

And there's me thinking they put the wannabees through the humiliation of auditioning to prove they could sing!!
Surely Simon Cowell at el wouldn't be so cruel? Or even think it was mildly entertaining?
/ sacrcastic mode off

poolking 31-07-2004 15:57

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Originally Posted by Chimaera
And there's me thinking they put the wannabees through the humiliation of auditioning to prove they could sing!!
Surely Simon Cowell at el wouldn't be so cruel? Or even think it was mildly entertaining?
/ sacrcastic mode off

Well on Tuesday we get to see his brother in action on the new reality show "The Block". :D

Chimaera 31-07-2004 16:05

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Originally Posted by poolking
Well on Tuesday we get to see his brother in action on the new reality show "The Block". :D

Is that the brother's name - because he has all the charisma of a block of wood on the trailer! :rofl:
I don't think I shall be watching that one somehow! ;)

poolking 31-07-2004 16:06

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He's a property developer and looking at the trailers, he's just as obnoxious as his brother. :D

Russ 31-07-2004 16:15

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I asked Mark Owen about artists who mime and although he never does it now, while in Take That he (and the rest of the group) were told to save their voices for the 'big occasions'.

Mike 31-07-2004 21:14

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Originally Posted by Russ D
I asked Mark Owen about artists who mime and although he never does it now, while in Take That he (and the rest of the group) were told to save their voices for the 'big occasions'.

I saw Mark Owen on TOTP singing Four Minute Warning live and have rated him ever since..............just goes to show !

Stuart 01-08-2004 00:02

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I personally have no problem with a band or singer miming if the performance is not advertised as live, and as long as the performance is enjoyable. I saw the Britney Spears concert that was supposed to be mimed. I don't know if it was, but I enjoyed the performance anyway. I paid to be entertained, and was, so I was happy.

I also have no problems with what they do on TOTP, not because I agree with them miming or anything, simply that I don't watch it.

Edit: Someone mentioned Pop idol winners, well, I haven't heard him live, but I don't think Will Young mimes when performing..


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