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Mal 09-07-2004 16:41

The female of the species...
 
Link ;)

Ramrod 09-07-2004 17:20

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WTF are we doing to our environment :(
This reminds me of the story in the 1980's where Italian boys developed female characteristics after eating veal that had been fattened with the aid of oestragens.....

homealone 09-07-2004 17:31

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This isn't a new phenomenon, ever since the contraceptive pill was introduced, the prescence of oestrogens in sewage was shown to have potential for affecting fish in this way. Increase in use of HRT doesn't help, either.

I think what the article highlights, is that it isn't going away and we really need to start doing something about it. :shrug:

Bex 09-07-2004 18:01

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how does a fish show female characteristics??

Ramrod 09-07-2004 18:13

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Originally Posted by Bex
how does a fish show female characteristics??

Starts using make-up.....

Bex 09-07-2004 18:21

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Starts using make-up.....

or dressing in skirts?
or growing their hair long?

Ramrod 09-07-2004 18:42

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Originally Posted by Bex
or dressing in skirts?
or growing their hair long?

Don't be silly.....fish don't wear skirts :rolleyes: ;) :D

homealone 09-07-2004 18:45

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Originally Posted by Bex
how does a fish show female characteristics??

one effect is that male fish start producing a protein that is associated with egg yolk production in females. :erm:

Xaccers 09-07-2004 18:54

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Of course many breeds of fish, unlike mamals, are able to change gender anyway.
And the fish involved live near sewerage outlets rather than in drinking water.

homealone 09-07-2004 19:16

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Of course many breeds of fish, unlike mamals, are able to change gender anyway.
And the fish involved live near sewerage outlets rather than in drinking water.

true on both counts, but the gender changing that naturally occurs is usually to maximise breeding potential, for the species. There is one species, where the males collect 'harems' of females, with which they mate exclusively. As they can't do this successfully, until they get big enough to defend their harem, all newly hatched fish are female, but they change into males when they reach a certain size.

The effect of oestrogens in sewage is tending to produce sterile males, rather than 'proper' females, though.

Bex 09-07-2004 19:20

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Don't be silly.....fish don't wear skirts :rolleyes: ;) :D

and them wearing make up isnt?:erm: :rolleyes:

Marge 09-07-2004 19:20

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Originally Posted by homealone
There is one species, where the males collect 'harems' of females, with which they mate exclusively

Chavsters ??????

homealone 09-07-2004 19:26

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Originally Posted by Debsy42
Chavsters ??????

:LOL:


Pikeys, maybe ;) :D

deadite66 09-07-2004 19:33

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sperm counts are going down in the west, wonder if a point in the future will be reached where the pill and hrt will be banned.

Marge 09-07-2004 19:38

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Originally Posted by deadite66
sperm counts are going down in the west, wonder if a point in the future will be reached where the pill and hrt will be banned.

:eek: I really hope not :erm:


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