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kippa. 17-05-2004 21:03

Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
Pondering getting a second box in my room just for the TiVo, but it would change the channel on both as they would be the same kind. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a box that doesn't respond the standard frequency? :dozey:

philquinney 18-05-2004 00:04

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
Hey kippa,

I'm not 100% sure on this, but you may have problems because your set top box uses the IRDA standard for i/r control, whilst your Tivo will use the more standard consumer based ir control. Have a look at http://www.redremote.co.uk/ for more information about this. It depends on which model you have.

I don't know much about the red eye device though - and don't endorse it in any way.

Phil.

kippa. 18-05-2004 00:19

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
not got a problem with it controlling one box. but I may want a second box just for the tivo. only problem with that is it would change the channel on both boxes when it started to record. so what I would need is one that didn't respond when it changed the channel on the box it was connected to

Tristan 18-05-2004 00:37

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
This is a difficult one. There is a front-panel key combination that will switch off the remote sensor, but I don't think this will really help, as presumably you don't want to have to get up to change channel...

I'll put my thinking cap on...

Paul 18-05-2004 01:11

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
Are you using the IR blaster funtion in Tivo ? - mine came with a plug in low power IR xmitter that you stick on the stb in front of the IR receiver - and shouldn't interfere with a second box - unfortunately this won't stop you changing the channel on the Tivo linked box if you use the remote control.

I solved the problem in a totally different way that is probably not open to you - my Tivo is linked to a dedicated sky box, while my normal viewing is via my NTL box.

Mike Harrison 18-05-2004 01:16

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
If the box is just for Tivo use, then it wouldn't be too hard to optically shield it from IR signals from the remote & vice versa - stick the TIVO emitter (via IRDA adapter or Red-Eye if it's an IRDA STB) to the front, with foil tape to shield the IR sensor.
If you want 2 STBs responding independently to 2 different remotes, then it can't be done with either of NTL's remote systems - IRDA (1000,1010,2000,4000 STB) or RC5 (4001), as there is no a/b code switching (as used on many VCRs) supported.
For IRDA boxes, it could be done using either A Red-Eye Translator plus some foil tape to shield the STB's IR receiver from IR from the IRDA remote, or for the 'ultimate' method, a Red-Eye on each STB - Red-Eye supports two A/B code sets and so two of them can respond independently to two remotes.

spiderplant 18-05-2004 09:00

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
kippa: Where in the country are you, and what model STB do you have?

kippa. 18-05-2004 10:12

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
I'm in coventry and I currently have a 4010.

Thinking about it, it would probably be easier to connect the old sky digibox up just for the basic channels.

Tristan 18-05-2004 12:49

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
Spiderplant: Will the 4010 respond to enough instructions from a grey Bromley remote for everyday use? If kippa gets a 4001 as his TiVo box, and uses Mike's method of ensuring no TiVo RC5 signals get near the 4010, then this could be a solution.

spiderplant 18-05-2004 13:25

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan
Spiderplant: Will the 4010 respond to enough instructions from a grey Bromley remote for everyday use? If kippa gets a 4001 as his TiVo box, and uses Mike's method of ensuring no TiVo RC5 signals get near the 4010, then this could be a solution.

No, that's the sort of thing I had in mind when I asked, but the 4010 software no longer includes the TWTV IR driver. (If kippa had been a Bromley user with a 1000 or 2000, I'd've recommended a Samsung second box).

I think shielding is the way to go. Or separate rooms?

Tristan 18-05-2004 23:47

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
Obviously this only applies to the Bromley software, but could you include something in the settings to specify that the box should only respond to a particular remote "colour"? It would be the perfect solution to a problem like this, and the new remotes seem ideal for it...

Mike Harrison 19-05-2004 18:18

Re: Do any stb's use different IR frequencies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan
Obviously this only applies to the Bromley software, but could you include something in the settings to specify that the box should only respond to a particular remote "colour"? It would be the perfect solution to a problem like this, and the new remotes seem ideal for it...

It would be entirely possible for them to implement this, but I suspect this is just one of many possible useful enhacements that we are unlikely to ever see.


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