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TheBlueRaja 10-05-2004 16:48

Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Hey all,
I have been having really intermittant web browsing issues whilst surfing recently, generally whenever i try to load a page for the first time it would just 404 on me.

Refreshing "usually" worked, but not always.

I had no Proxy server set in my IE Internet options and when i looked at http://www.broadband-help.com/cm_diagnose.asp?init=1 it said the following..

Proxied HTTP? No
Proxy IP n/a
Proxy Name(Raw)
Proxy Name(R-DNS) No DNS Entry

I then changed it to cache4-brtn.server.ntli.net (8080) and all my issues have went away. Now this has been happeneing on and off for a couple of weeks at least, resets of the box had NO effect, and in the last couple of days it has got worse (which is why i have been digging into it).

I now get..

Proxied HTTP? Yes
Proxy IP 80.3.64.7 [WHOIS]
Proxy Name(Raw) HTTP/1.0 ntl_site[50034007] (Traffic-Server/5.2.4-59139 [uSc ])
Proxy Name(R-DNS) cache4-brtn.server.ntli.net

But what was causing my original problems?

Any ideas?

mcmanic 10-05-2004 18:45

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
been getting the same probs here(Fishersgate),thought it was my pc,but as you say 1st click onto some websites would give a 404 error and a refesh would SOMETIMES be ok,been like it past few days

TheBlueRaja 10-05-2004 18:53

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Can you try changing your Proxy setting to see if that fixes it, and report what http://www.broadband-help.com/cm_diagnose.asp?init=1 tells you like i have done. It will be interesting to see if the settings are the same.

Where is Fishersgate BTW?

Chris W 10-05-2004 18:53

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theblueraja
Hey all,
I have been having really intermittant web browsing issues whilst surfing recently, generally whenever i try to load a page for the first time it would just 404 on me.

Refreshing "usually" worked, but not always.

I had no Proxy server set in my IE Internet options and when i looked at http://www.broadband-help.com/cm_diagnose.asp?init=1 it said the following..

Proxied HTTP? No
Proxy IP n/a
Proxy Name(Raw)
Proxy Name(R-DNS) No DNS Entry

I then changed it to cache4-brtn.server.ntli.net (8080) and all my issues have went away. Now this has been happeneing on and off for a couple of weeks at least, resets of the box had NO effect, and in the last couple of days it has got worse (which is why i have been digging into it).

I now get..

Proxied HTTP? Yes
Proxy IP 80.3.64.7 [WHOIS]
Proxy Name(Raw) HTTP/1.0 ntl_site[50034007] (Traffic-Server/5.2.4-59139 [uSc ])
Proxy Name(R-DNS) cache4-brtn.server.ntli.net

But what was causing my original problems?

Any ideas?

probably the proxy that you were going through before you specified one. Some of them are transparent so won't always show up when you test for them. Sometimes they show from the test on www.all-nettools.com.

if you find out which proxy you were routed to by default, please post here.

MB

TheBlueRaja 10-05-2004 19:01

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Tried it 4 or 5 times, says Proxy Server Not Detected every time.

Any other ideas how i can find out?

Paul 10-05-2004 19:34

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
What does this show > http://romulas.zmnt.co.uk/forum/vars.asp

TheBlueRaja 10-05-2004 21:02

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
WITHOUT Proxy Set (Problem Settings)

HTTP Variables

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Variables Value
. .
REMOTE_ADDR 81.99.x.x
CLIENT_IP
HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR
. .
REQUEST_METHOD GET
SERVER_NAME romulas.zmnt.co.uk
SERVER_PORT 80
SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1
HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
HTTP_REFERER
HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive
. .


If CLIENT_IP and HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR are blank then you are either directly connected, in which case REMOTE_ADDR is your IP address,
or you are connected via an anonymous proxy server - in which case REMOTE_ADDR is the proxy server IP address.

If CLIENT_IP or HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR contain an IP address then this is your IP address and REMOTE_ADDR is your proxy servers address.

WITH PROXY SET (Problem Free)

HTTP Variables

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Variables Value
. .
REMOTE_ADDR 80.3.64.7
CLIENT_IP 81.99.x.x
HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR 81.99.x.x
. .
REQUEST_METHOD GET
SERVER_NAME romulas.zmnt.co.uk
SERVER_PORT 80
SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.0
HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
HTTP_REFERER
HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive
. .


If CLIENT_IP and HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR are blank then you are either directly connected, in which case REMOTE_ADDR is your IP address,
or you are connected via an anonymous proxy server - in which case REMOTE_ADDR is the proxy server IP address.

If CLIENT_IP or HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR contain an IP address then this is your IP address and REMOTE_ADDR is your proxy servers address.

mcmanic 10-05-2004 21:02

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
VariablesValue.
REMOTE_ADDR - 82.x.xxx.21
CLIENT_IP - BLANK
HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR - BLANK
REQUEST_METHOD - GET
SERVER_NAME - romulas.zmnt.co.uk
SERVER_PORT - 80
SERVER_PROTOCOLHTTP/ -1.1
HTTP_USER_AGENT - Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
HTTP_REFERER HTTP_CONNECTION - Keep-Alive

That taken from above link,means nothing to me,lol,but the problem still persists and been like it all day and most of yesterday.

Deafault windowsXP settings,nothing changed proxy wise

and Fishersgate is between Southwick and Portslade,infact next door to NTL,lol

Chris W 10-05-2004 21:06

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theblueraja
Tried it 4 or 5 times, says Proxy Server Not Detected every time.

Any other ideas how i can find out?

hmm ok... in that case then can you give me an example or two of sites that were not working, and then i can work out which proxies in the area are causing the problem.

cheers
MB

TheBlueRaja 10-05-2004 21:09

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
No Probs,
This site and news.bbc.co.uk were but a couple.

mcmanic 10-05-2004 21:09

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
http://www.broadband-help.com/cm_diagnose.asp?init=1

just tried that link as in 1st post,i got nothing,unless i refreshed

which then i got this:
Proxied HTTP?NoProxy IPn/a Proxy Name(Raw)Proxy Name(R-DNS)No DNS Entry

TheBlueRaja 10-05-2004 21:10

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcmanic
and Fishersgate is between Southwick and Portslade,infact next door to NTL,lol

LOL :D

TheBlueRaja 10-05-2004 21:14

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcmanic
http://www.broadband-help.com/cm_diagnose.asp?init=1

just tried that link as in 1st post,i got nothing,unless i refreshed

which then i got this:
Proxied HTTP?NoProxy IPn/a Proxy Name(Raw)Proxy Name(R-DNS)No DNS Entry

OK, in IE, (Top Menu) goto Tools/Internet Options, select the Connections tab, click the "Lan Settings" button near the bottom.

In the window that pops up (bottom half) - click Use a proxy server, and in the address box type or paste "cache4-brtn.server.ntli.net" (no quotes) and in the port box type 8080.

Click Ok, then OK again.

Now can you tell me if you can browse OK now?

Paul 10-05-2004 21:21

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcmanic
VariablesValue.
REMOTE_ADDR - 82.x.xxx.21
CLIENT_IP - BLANK
HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR - BLANK
REQUEST_METHOD - GET
SERVER_NAME - romulas.zmnt.co.uk
SERVER_PORT - 80
SERVER_PROTOCOLHTTP/ -1.1
HTTP_USER_AGENT - Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
HTTP_REFERER HTTP_CONNECTION - Keep-Alive

That taken from above link,means nothing to me,lol,but the problem still persists and been like it all day and most of yesterday.

It appears to confirm you were not being routed via an NTL proxy server when you accessed that page - and I can see from your IP that you apparently wern't when you posted your reply either.

Therefore your problem does not seem to be related to proxy servers.

Chris W 10-05-2004 21:23

Re: Web Proxy Cache's in Brighton / Hove Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theblueraja
No Probs,
This site and news.bbc.co.uk were but a couple.

ok will look into it when i have a moment tonight ;)


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