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DeKurver 06-05-2004 10:42

Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
I stumbled across this thread on Digital Spy:

Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season

It doesn't seem all that clear yet, but it looks like some of the extra games will be made available as part of Sky Sports interactive, just like they did with some of the Champions League games this season. If this turns out to be true, what is the likelihood of ntl: customers being able to view the extra games? Given that Langley customers don't have any decent interactive services yet, pending the completion of the CR3 roll-out, I guess it's too much to expect that we'll have access to Sky interactive content (short of switching to Sky) any time soon.

Charlie_Bubble 06-05-2004 11:51

Re: Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeKurver
I stumbled across this thread on Digital Spy:

Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season

It doesn't seem all that clear yet, but it looks like some of the extra games will be made available as part of Sky Sports interactive, just like they did with some of the Champions League games this season. If this turns out to be true, what is the likelihood of ntl: customers being able to view the extra games? Given that Langley customers don't have any decent interactive services yet, pending the completion of the CR3 roll-out, I guess it's too much to expect that we'll have access to Sky interactive content (short of switching to Sky) any time soon.

My dish install on sunday is looking a better idea with each passing day! :)

NTL had a winner with their Premiership Plus for £1 a month, but if sky start putting more games on multi-channel interactive then NTL are on a loser right from the start. I somehow doubt NTL will be able to provide this kind of thing for next season.

Chrysalis 07-05-2004 01:59

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wouldnt surprise me if sky made this move, ntl only have themselves to blame, many areas still analogue only, digital areas still not got same capabilities as sky, there is no comparison between sky and ntl, they in different leagues.

mdean 08-05-2004 10:17

Re: Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
wouldnt surprise me if sky made this move, ntl only have themselves to blame, many areas still analogue only, digital areas still not got same capabilities as sky, there is no comparison between sky and ntl, they in different leagues.

MMM not really sure what you mean

Sky are in a different league ?

NTL and Sky both provide digital platforms - sky are also a broadcaster/ programme maker. Sky try to take advantage of the latter to support their business as the former.

Their driver to do this is to get more revenue through PPV/ red dot rip offs.

IMHO HMG should require the splitting of Sky into 2 business's

The platform provider providing space for channels and an EPG and collecting the cash (same as NTL)

And a programme maker / broadcaster - sky sports etc. The driver for this business would be to get its pictures on all platforms to make revenue by selling subs.


It is nonsense to say sky ntl are in different leagues - they are playing different games.

Chrysalis 08-05-2004 20:12

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they play the same game, they both provide TV, sky is in a different league because its of a much higher standard, every sky customer can be on digital and get any one of its packages, ntl its pot luck where you live, if you in a analogue only area tough luck, I havent seen ntl digital but after reading on here I know its of a lower qaulity to sky digital, less channels and worse interactive functions, Before I moved I was a customer of sky digital and believe me when I say there is a huge difference. NTL quite simply havent been keeping pace, in the early days of cable and sattelite cable was more then a match for sky but with the lack of investment cable has fallen behind, I am paying for my cable tv and I can't even pick up channels freeview has thats how dire the situation is.

monkey2468 08-05-2004 21:21

Re: Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
they play the same game, they both provide TV, sky is in a different league because its of a much higher standard, every sky customer can be on digital and get any one of its packages, ntl its pot luck where you live, if you in a analogue only area tough luck, I havent seen ntl digital but after reading on here I know its of a lower qaulity to sky digital, less channels and worse interactive functions, Before I moved I was a customer of sky digital and believe me when I say there is a huge difference. NTL quite simply havent been keeping pace, in the early days of cable and sattelite cable was more then a match for sky but with the lack of investment cable has fallen behind, I am paying for my cable tv and I can't even pick up channels freeview has thats how dire the situation is.

What freeview channels?

Chrysalis 09-05-2004 02:01

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you kidding with me right?

skysports news
bbc3
bbc4
sky travel
uktv bright ideas
uktv history
cbbc
cbeebies
tmf
the hits
bbc parliament
community channel
ideal world
bid up tv
price drop tv

plus a load of radio

now I know most of it isnt interesting to most people but ntl should be able to provide it free as they are free to air channels. MTV is a joke only 5% of the time it plays music, I dont know if the music channels on freeview are better.

Richardr 09-05-2004 11:12

Re: Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeKurver
I stumbled across this thread on Digital Spy:

Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season

It doesn't seem all that clear yet, but it looks like some of the extra games will be made available as part of Sky Sports interactive, just like they did with some of the Champions League games this season.

I think you will find that that is for the new contract which allows them to show detailed highlights of one of the Saturday 3pm games from 8:30, and the others from 10pm, not the live games.

It has now been announced that there will be 50 games on Premiership Plus.

DeKurver 09-05-2004 11:37

Re: Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardr
I think you will find that that is for the new contract which allows them to show detailed highlights of one of the Saturday 3pm games from 8:30, and the others from 10pm, not the live games.

It has now been announced that there will be 50 games on Premiership Plus.

Yes I agree, but the discussion hinted at a choice of Saturday games being available via the red button. If this is true then it's unlikely that ntl: (or Telewest for that matter) customers will get the same choice. Also, are you certain that it's extended highlights rather than the full games? I realise that 3pm Saturday games still cannot be shown live but there's nothing to stop Sky showing the full game later in the evening.

mdean 09-05-2004 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
they play the same game, they both provide TV, sky is in a different league because its of a much higher standard, every sky customer can be on digital and get any one of its packages, ntl its pot luck where you live, if you in a analogue only area tough luck, I havent seen ntl digital but after reading on here I know its of a lower qaulity to sky digital, less channels and worse interactive functions, Before I moved I was a customer of sky digital and believe me when I say there is a huge difference. NTL quite simply havent been keeping pace, in the early days of cable and sattelite cable was more then a match for sky but with the lack of investment cable has fallen behind, I am paying for my cable tv and I can't even pick up channels freeview has thats how dire the situation is.

This is such drivel I don't know where to start

Yes NTL digital is not a universal service but any comparison is between NTL and skys digital service where both are available

You cannot see NTL digital--- so don't comment. There is no disernable difference between sky and NTL signal ( I have all 3 platforms but use NTL for Pay tv)

In terms of channels you are off beam- you can get all freevie and T up tv channels on NTL digital

It is clear you did not understand or missed the point of my post

Richardr 09-05-2004 14:08

Re: Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeKurver
Yes I agree, but the discussion hinted at a choice of Saturday games being available via the red button. If this is true then it's unlikely that ntl: (or Telewest for that matter) customers will get the same choice. Also, are you certain that it's extended highlights rather than the full games? I realise that 3pm Saturday games still cannot be shown live but there's nothing to stop Sky showing the full game later in the evening.

Yes - the later coverage can be for between 45 minutes and the full 90 minutes of the Saturday games delayed.

O2 X1 09-05-2004 17:22

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Sky and ntl are definately not in different leagues! There are only about 10 channels on Sky which are not on ntl that are any good. On the interactive side of things, the only decent stuff is BBCi (ntl will be getting this after LCR3 in June I think) and Sky News and Sports Active (ntl are in talks with Sky to get this) all the rest of Sky's interactive is crap and is there simply to try and con you out of more money, with Sky, if you even think about pressing the red button they charge you! I much prefer the layout of ntl than to Sky's EPG, and think that when/if ntl do get these few interactive applications and a few extra channels then they will be able to really compete against Sky! And Video on Demand will make ntl move into a different league to Sky!

Chrysalis 09-05-2004 23:28

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mdean, I am sure you wouldnt have that attitude if you was stick with analogue.

when I had sky using the interactive on sky sports xtra didnt cost extra money has that now changed?

DeKurver 10-05-2004 22:40

Re: Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
I got a letter today from ntl: that, after some snipping, reads as follows:

Quote:

Premiership Plus
As a Premiership Plus customer we hope that you have enjoyed the last two seasons of our fantastic offer that has brought you 40 live Premiership Plus games a season for just £1 a month. That's only £10 for the whole season - up to £90 cheaper than a Sky Digital Season Ticket!

Next Season's Offer
We're still waiting for details on next season's offer. As always, we will do our very best to ensure that we bring you all of these games at the best possible price and we will, of course, contact you again as soon as we have all the details.
I take this to mean the end of £1/month Premiership Plus, although hopefully whatever offer they come up with will still be very competitive compared to the Sky Digital Season Ticket (£75, but £50 if you buy now).

Mal 10-05-2004 22:42

Re: Sky Premiership Coverage for Next Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeKurver
I got a letter today from ntl: that, after some snipping, reads as follows:


I take this to mean the end of £1/month Premiership Plus, although hopefully whatever offer they come up with will still be very competitive compared to the Sky Digital Season Ticket (£75, but £50 if you buy now).

I'm sure they said something similar last year, so it may or may not mean an increase. :shrug:


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