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kronas 05-04-2004 18:26

BBC being censored ?
 
the BBC has come under fire from a media watchdog after a radio 1 DJ played a track from an artist called 'scor zay zee' the watchdog complained the following lyrics were 'inappropriate' and told the BBC to ban the song.......

lyrics:

Quote:

"Slavery made the riches of Great Britain, the queen wears stolen diamonds, her husband's a Freemason, they killed Lady Di. The Queen lives in an house like Saddam Hussein. They're both rich so I guess they are one and the same,"
source: brand republic

http://www.brandrepublic.com/mediabu...gin=MB05042004

so should they have played it, it was up to the DJ whether he played it or not, and the BBC have refused to ban it..............

Bifta 05-04-2004 18:29

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How long would a newspaper last if they decided to accuse the Royal Family of killing Princess Di? The BBC need to climb down out of their asses and realise that they do have to answer to other people.

Maggy 05-04-2004 18:45

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another case of the BBC banning a record.It is not new as far as that organisation is concerned and I predict it won't be the last time.

Trouble is that all that ever does is backfire.The record is bound to get to number one now if it is released as a single.

Incog.:)

aliferste 05-04-2004 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bifta
How long would a newspaper last if they decided to accuse the Royal Family of killing Princess Di? The BBC need to climb down out of their asses and realise that they do have to answer to other people.

4 out of 5 isnt bad though ;)

Theodoric 05-04-2004 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
another case of the BBC banning a record.It is not new as far as that organisation is concerned and I predict it won't be the last time.

Trouble is that all that ever does is backfire.The record is bound to get to number one now if it is released as a single.

Incog.:)

It's a good old BBC tradition. The oldest one that I kow of is Strange Fruit sung, IIRC, by Billie Holiday. And there was a one that was supposed to make people feel suicidal. The BBC wouldn't be the BBC if it didn't occasionally ban a record.

Bifta 05-04-2004 19:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
another case of the BBC banning a record.It is not new as far as that organisation is concerned and I predict it won't be the last time.

Trouble is that all that ever does is backfire.The record is bound to get to number one now if it is released as a single.

Incog.:)

The BBC haven't banned it, please read the article.

Tricky 05-04-2004 19:45

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Covering their rear ends I would suggest - Hutton Enquiry springs to mind.!

Damien 05-04-2004 22:21

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LEAVE THE BBC ALONE!

Really though, they are the most un-biased new source avalible and unlike some people who claim to tell you the truth they dont discard new storys if they are positive about goverment/uk.

Accusing leaving people of murder is wrong and can be slander. Also comparing the queen to saddam as 'they are both rich' just shows they have no understanding about the issue in hand and are just cashing in on the deaths of Diana and the iraqi war.

But this is a issue for the song writers the bbc did not write it and do penlty of things right. The BBC is the only channel left showing good quality programming

dr wadd 05-04-2004 22:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Theodoric
It's a good old BBC tradition. The oldest one that I kow of is Strange Fruit sung, IIRC, by Billie Holiday. And there was a one that was supposed to make people feel suicidal. The BBC wouldn't be the BBC if it didn't occasionally ban a record.

This is the one,

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm354107.html

was in a book on mysteries I had when I was a kid.

Chris 05-04-2004 22:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
LEAVE THE BBC ALONE!

Really though, they are the most un-biased new source avalible and unlike some people who claim to tell you the truth they dont discard new storys if they are positive about goverment/uk.

Accusing leaving people of murder is wrong and can be slander. Also comparing the queen to saddam as 'they are both rich' just shows they have no understanding about the issue in hand and are just cashing in on the deaths of Diana and the iraqi war.

But this is a issue for the song writers the bbc did not write it and do penlty of things right. The BBC is the only channel left showing good quality programming

unbiased?! If you want a classic example of the BBC's often strange newsdesk priorities, compare and contrast Fergal Keane's retrospectives of the Rwanda genocide, playing on Panorama these last two weeks (in which he all but accuses the UK, USA and others of being complicit in the whole sorry mess by failing to send in the troops) with the BBC's editorial line on Iraq, where a murderous dictator has been performing acts of genocide for a generation and where the UK and USA are being pilloried for doing something about it.

Damien 06-04-2004 10:48

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I supported the war but we where very wrong not to get involved 10 years ago the irai war was critised for other reasons and the bbc showed both sides

Ramrod 06-04-2004 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by towny
unbiased?! If you want a classic example of the BBC's often strange newsdesk priorities, compare and contrast Fergal Keane's retrospectives of the Rwanda genocide, playing on Panorama these last two weeks (in which he all but accuses the UK, USA and others of being complicit in the whole sorry mess by failing to send in the troops) with the BBC's editorial line on Iraq, where a murderous dictator has been performing acts of genocide for a generation and where the UK and USA are being pilloried for doing something about it.

Well put!

Damien 06-04-2004 11:01

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They are both diffrant issues

Stuart W 06-04-2004 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
I supported the war but we where very wrong not to get involved 10 years ago the irai war was critised for other reasons and the bbc showed both sides

We DID get involved (and it was around 10 years ago) Worse than that, we helped put our new trusted friend Saddam Hussain in power.

History being what it is... anyone remember a place called Mesopotamia?....

THE FOREIGN OFFICE, 2002.
Junior: Remind me again why weâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢re invading.
Minister: Because it is our sacred duty to liberate the population from, what did Jack Straw call it? †œOne of the most vicious and evil regimes in the history of mankindââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚.
Junior: Yes itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s Saddam Hussein, but didnââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t he use to be our ally?
Minister: Well I mean there was a time when he was the bulwark of stability against the fanatics of Iran, but weâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ve got to forget all about that.
Junior: Of course. Heâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s a threat to our oil supplies..
Minister: How many times do I have to tell you Tristram this has got nothing whatsoever to do with oil.
Junior: Sorry yes. So this is an historic moment then?
Minister: It certainly is. Nothing like this has ever happened before....................

OR HAS IT???

THE FOREIGN OFFICE 1917.
Junior: Remind me again why weâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢re invading.
Minister: Because it is our sacred duty to liberate the population from one of the most vicious and evil regimes in the history of mankind.
Junior: Oh you mean the Turks? But didnâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t they use to be our allies?
Minister: Well thee was a time of course when the Turks were a bulwark of stability against the Russian Empire, but we have to forget about all that.
Junior: And of course theyââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ve just discovered oil there havenââ‚ÆšÂ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t they?
Minister: This has nothing whatsoever to do with oil.
Junior: But itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s an enormous country.
Minister: Yes of course it isnââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t a country at all is it, just a lot of mud and sand and mountains. But weâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ll make it a country.
Junior: Are we going to invent a whole new country?
Minister: Yes, we often do that in the British Empire. Havenââ‚ÆšÂ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t you ever done it?
Junior: No.
Minister: Well nowââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s your chance.
Junior: And weâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ll call it..... It says here Mesopotamia.
Minister: No no no, Mesopotamia takes too long to write. No we need something short and snappy.
Junior: Well anyway, after weâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ve invaded, it will just be a wreck.
Minister: Yes. What? What did you say?
Junior: It will just be a wreck.
Minister: Ireq. I like the sound of that. Iraq.

And so Iraq was created. By us. The trouble was it had never been a country. Just a collection of tribes. Kurds, Marsh Arabs, Shiites, Sunnis, Turcomans, Jews, Assyrians. Mostly they detested each other, so you would think it would be a tough job for Britain to unite them.
But we did it. Less than 3 years after we took over, they all got together...... to throw us out. That revolt was put down by British troops but the Arab tribesmen and the Kurds kept on causing trouble. How did we deal with that? We all know how Saddam Hussein dealt with it 60 odd years later. He bombed the villages.
So what did we do? We bombed the villages. The RAF had a big airbase at Habbaniya, outside Baghdad, from where they sent lumbering Handley-Page biplanes to blitz them at the first sign of trouble. In fact there didnâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t need to be any trouble at all before a place was bombed. Perfectly peaceful villages got the treatment if the tribesmen were thought to be to slow paying their taxes. This was the first systematic bombing of civilians in history. Another gift to a grateful world.
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Script (C) Rory Bremner - Between Iraq and a hard place.
Irony (C) Historical Fact.


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