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Isn't that the definition of a forum? ;)

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That is likely to be only be for third party options, rather than the NHS QR Codes.

A pub I went to on Friday had both the NHS QR code on the wall and their own registration site on the booking confirmation and menus.

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People do keep on about the success in New Zealand especially (the Asian countries are a bit different as the public behaviour to government is different). But geographically New Zealand is in a fortunate position. They don't have boat loads of people trying to get in across a small body of water any one of whom could bring in the virus past a border lockdown.
They also have a much smaller population (half population of Greater London - 2012) than us and is a bit bigger in land area. Makes it easier to lockdown hard for a short period and clear out the virus and keep it out.

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The population size is a red herring. Divide the UK into the nations and English local authorities. Get each to manage theirs down to zero then open up with the rest of the country when they do. We've got far more resource than New Zealand to throw at such a task, if there was the political will and acceptance that the solution will cost money.

Public behaviour is often touted - people more likely to adhere to rules etc. Well if people open their eyes they should see that's a small price to pay for a semblance of normality. It'd also get the internal economy back on it's feet sooner.

But no, it's too hard/too costly continues to be the mantra. I'm sure when we reflect on the costs in a few years it'd have been a relative bargain.

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But even if you segment up the UK how do you stop people moving between areas? Road blocks? How do you stop people walking cross country? What about people how live on the "border" that work in one area and live in another?

Population is important - NZ has a total population of say 5 million. The UK has 70 million in roughly the same land area. And population behaviour is important - the western mindset is more tuned to individuality than society. We say people should but they don't.

And I do agree the costs will show to be bigger in the long run.

New Zealand is "successful" because it can isolate itself. The Asian countries have some success because the populations do what they are told (or even suggested). We have neither advantage.

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You would hope people would exercise common sense, but road closures and blocks would be one option if significant numbers of people weren't adhering to the rules. It's not in anyone's interest to export or import Covid across these lines.

It should be discouraged. Companies should explore options - working from home or temporarily redeploying staff. If it was essential then fair enough - make testing available to such individuals. Or furlough them until both areas are 'safe' and the temporary border can be lifted.

Ah the "western mindset". If the western mindset is so strong that people can't adhere to rules to help them get back to normal then they deserve what they get.

Do people really want another year of this? Because that's the alternative.

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But, but, they'd be dead as well.....:D

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In Ireland, I believe they're stopping people at county boundaries and asking if their journeys are essential so we could do that. Next stage up from that I guess is that they have to prove it's essential.

No one's pretending these things are easy.

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According to Deputy Chief Medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam in the press conference he has just given he stated the Covid surge in the North is now spreading to the south of England.

Not good news given the tier lockdown level 3 which is going to be announced for many parts of the north later today by the government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJwW...TheIndependent

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A question of when, not if, sadly. No adequate testing/tracing infrastructure in place to prevent it.

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Conveniently plucks figures out of the air showing a rise in the south because the north has been vilified for weeks and northerners have had enough of this scifience.

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l now hear London is now braced for a possible tier 2 lockdown sooner rather then later.


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a4568481.html

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You have summed it up perfectly...

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We must be doing something right in Worthing as together with Cornwall and several other places we have a falling infection rate.

It could be having a large number of elderly living here that they're keeping their heads down.

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Continuing lockdowns, release, then another lockdown and so on will certainly guarantee that. Your preferred method is slowing it down!

You need to join your own dots.