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telfordcable 16-04-2013 00:58

Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
Here we go again:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5...nt-levels.html

Meekel 16-04-2013 01:21

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
Ugh, those upload limits are horrible in comparison to what it was before. Pretty much stops me streaming to Twitch.

This actually forces me to look towards another ISP now..

telfordcable 16-04-2013 01:25

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
Yes I agree. The only best three isps out there is BT, Plusnet and Sky FTTC with unlimited and no traffic management but these may change once BT had completed the whole nationwide FTTC in 2015/6 as the BT network might get congestion. Only time will tell, I suppose!

deakin 16-04-2013 02:13

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
It might be the fact that it's past 2am or it's just that i'm a dimwit but i'm a little confuzzled by this. I'm a XXL100 customer and if i'm reading this new policy correctly between the weekday hours of 4pm to 11pm i can only download 4500Mb per hour or i'll get limited for an hour.

If this is the case will i be able to download a file(say a dvd) that's under 4500mb in size at 4pm then again each hour until 11pm. In other words i can download as much as i like as long as it's in chunks of 4500mb or less per hour and i won't get my connection reduced ?

Dash: CF noob 16-04-2013 02:20

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
No see the 2 hour threshold of 5750mb.
If you download 4500mb in hour one then 1250mb in hour 2 then you will be managed.

deakin 16-04-2013 02:27

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
Right i'm starting to understand now, thank you.

Dash: CF noob 16-04-2013 02:39

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
More info here:-

http://my.virginmedia.com/traffic-ma...or-higher.html

jb66 16-04-2013 06:41

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
upstream traffic managment is terrible, i usually just let my torrents run 24/7 but ill have no upload now. i will have to stop torrents 5pm to 10pm. probably what virgin want me to do

---------- Post added at 06:41 ---------- Previous post was at 06:36 ----------

how fast can you download with 0.75 upload?

Qtx 16-04-2013 08:10

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
4.5GB limit on 100Mbit connection :LOL:

When other ISP's are removing traffic management, VM just keeps punishing their customers.

peanut 16-04-2013 08:53

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
No cap before 4pm is welcomed, but the limits after are a joke on 100mb esp the weekends. Though I won't be changing my use over the weekends, I'll just carry on as normal and for the time being live with a slower connection at the weekends. The limits are just too low to change anyone's ways instead of maybe keeping under the old limits of 10gb or 20gb, people will not just not worry about it and download 24/7.

As for being on 100mb then being throttled down to 60% of full speed (40% reduction) it is still fast enough not to notice too much. But those on lower tariffs I do feel for.

I have to say to only find out on the day it comes in is poor. And the constantly changing rules are very much out of order. They ain't doing themseles any favors that's for sure.

General Maximus 16-04-2013 09:03

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
It might just be me being a spoon but I like it. Obviously I would want to get rid of traffic management altogether but I think this policy is better than what we had before. I think it is fantastic that they have seen the sense in getting rid of day time stm as it contradicted their assertion that a "minority of users are affected during peak time".

The only thing which is going to annoy me is that usage is monitored per hour rather than over the total time range. I would rather know I can download 35gb between 1600-2300 without being managed rather than download 5gb per hour (which I can obviously do way more than that on 120mbit)

jb66 16-04-2013 09:14

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
would it not be simpler to remove all traffic management except torrents and cap them 50% between 4pm and 10pm

qasdfdsaq 16-04-2013 09:46

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
Utterly pointless if you ask me, a 30% limit is going to be useless for managing any serious levels of congestion.

It will, IMO, only help for increasing the amount of oversubscription they can push on higher tariffs before lower ones see significant speed losses.

BenMcr 16-04-2013 10:07

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dash: CF noob (Post 35561437)
No see the 2 hour threshold of 5750mb.
If you download 4500mb in hour one then 1250mb in hour 2 then you will be managed.

Erm nope

Kushan 16-04-2013 10:10

Re: Virgin Media New Traffic Management Again
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35561479)
would it not be simpler to remove all traffic management except torrents and cap them 50% between 4pm and 10pm

Easier said than done and sadly it's not just torrents that use a lot of traffic these days. The rise of services like netflix has meant that plenty of users now download a lot and it seems Virgin is struggling to keep up.

I'm not sure how I feel about this new policy. The supposedly shorter STM is good, but if you look closely, if you keep downloading then you stay under STM until peak times are over. They're a bit vague at how that actually works and how it's calculated.


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