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nomadking 16-01-2020 14:51
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36022598)
The ASUS ROG AX11000 has 2.5Ge.

Anyway, my area has a major outage at the moment (since 09:00).

However, there is stuff to fix on the Hub 4 in that regard. The light went red (as it should if there is no service). But now, it's dim white as if normal but no locked channels, no TV.
But the input(WAN) to the router is still 1Gbps.
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RJ45 for Gigabits BaseT for WAN x 1, RJ45 for Gigabits BaseT for LAN x 4, Support Ethernet and 802.3 with max. bit rate 2.5Gbps Mbps and auto cross-over function(MDI-X)
USB 3.1 Gen 1 x 2

pip08456 16-01-2020 15:00
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36022872)
But the input(WAN) to the router is still 1Gbps.
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I think Seph knows that.:)

nomadking 16-01-2020 15:12
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36022873)
I think Seph knows that.:)
Are you sure about that? They made a comment about it having a 2.5Gbps connection. Rather meaningless as the maximum single connection from the shub4 is going to be 1Gbps.

pip08456 16-01-2020 16:05
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36022876)
Are you sure about that? They made a comment about it having a 2.5Gbps connection. Rather meaningless as the maximum single connection from the shub4 is going to be 1Gbps.
You obviously don't know Seph.:)

Sephiroth 16-01-2020 17:47
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36022877)
You obviously don't know Seph.:)
Especially when I'm referred to us "they"!

Kushan 16-01-2020 17:53
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I'm curious as to what your plan is, then, Seph.

Sephiroth 16-01-2020 18:30
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36022888)
I'm curious as to what your plan is, then, Seph.
Turn myself into a "they" I suppose, Kush.

I'll stay where I am for now. The AX11000 I wanted I got outbid on eBay and thus 940/54 will more than do. It's the 50 that I really appreciate.

rssfed23 16-01-2020 20:28
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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 36022871)
Has anyone done a speed test in the gig service be interesting to see, I will be getting it when comes out in my area.
Like this?
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/01/2.png

Kushan 16-01-2020 23:17
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36022893)
Turn myself into a "they" I suppose, Kush.

I'll stay where I am for now. The AX11000 I wanted I got outbid on eBay and thus 940/54 will more than do. It's the 50 that I really appreciate.
I still don't really follow what difference the AX11000 would have made with the 2.5G port, given the Hub4 only has gigabit ports? That's what I'm wondering what your plan was in either case.

rssfed23 17-01-2020 02:29
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36022927)
I still don't really follow what difference the AX11000 would have made with the 2.5G port, given the Hub4 only has gigabit ports? That's what I'm wondering what your plan was in either case.
Even if the hub4 only has gigabit ports you only need a decent router with 2 wan ports to be able to max out the thing throughout the home. It's not the prettiest solution in the world but it does the job.

Besides, we're talking about 150mbit on top of a gigabit connection here - perspective ;)

Rexz 17-01-2020 09:48
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I was contemplating some kind of double NAT once 1gbit roles out to my area but wonder if the problems that come from using it outweigh the extra speed (if I can successfully load balance that is). Does provisioning more bandwidth for 1gbit help with achieving 1gbit or allow them to advertise it as being "faster than"?

Kushan 17-01-2020 12:43
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Originally Posted by Rexz (Post 36022952)
I was contemplating some kind of double NAT once 1gbit roles out to my area but wonder if the problems that come from using it outweigh the extra speed (if I can successfully load balance that is). Does provisioning more bandwidth for 1gbit help with achieving 1gbit or allow them to advertise it as being "faster than"?
Virgin over provisions all of their tiers as there's strict advertising rules relating to a certain % of customers actually getting that speed. That mostly came from *DSL lines as people were being sold 24Mbit connections that could realistically only get 5mbit (or worse), but the rules apply to Virgin as well.

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Originally Posted by rssfed23 (Post 36022937)
Even if the hub4 only has gigabit ports you only need a decent router with 2 wan ports to be able to max out the thing throughout the home. It's not the prettiest solution in the world but it does the job.

Besides, we're talking about 150mbit on top of a gigabit connection here - perspective ;)
I'm aware of this, but Seph specifically mentioned getting a router with a 2.5G port and I'm still curious as to what he planned to do with that. Was it something like Hub -> 2x 1G -> Router -> 2.5G -> 2.5G/5G/10G on a PC? Something like that?

I'm just trying to understand why a 2.5G router is in any way relevant.

Sephiroth 18-01-2020 09:15
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 36022978)
Virgin over provisions all of their tiers as there's strict advertising rules relating to a certain % of customers actually getting that speed. That mostly came from *DSL lines as people were being sold 24Mbit connections that could realistically only get 5mbit (or worse), but the rules apply to Virgin as well.



I'm aware of this, but Seph specifically mentioned getting a router with a 2.5G port and I'm still curious as to what he planned to do with that. Was it something like Hub -> 2x 1G -> Router -> 2.5G -> 2.5G/5G/10G on a PC? Something like that?

I'm just trying to understand why a 2.5G router is in any way relevant.
Kush is pressing me and I don’t want to dodge! His underlying question is well founded. My instinct is that in the lifetime of the AX11000 router at my house, and with the possibility of full fibre roll-out and associated speed competition, then2.5Gig port will eventually come into useful play. I’ve had the AC68U for nearly 4 years and look what’s happened to speeds in that elapsed period. Naturally I would have to upgrade my PC equipment, but that’s all part of the fun.

roughbeast 19-01-2020 19:49
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I'm not buying into this, unless VM can promise something approaching a symmetrical connection in the fairly near future. Within 12 months or so, most of Coventry, including my patch, will be served by Vodaphone's Gigabit product. (In reality 900Mb up and down) At £48 a month, this compares very well with the inferior VM M1000 @ £62.

nomadking 19-01-2020 20:20
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36023056)
Kush is pressing me and I don’t want to dodge! His underlying question is well founded. My instinct is that in the lifetime of the AX11000 router at my house, and with the possibility of full fibre roll-out and associated speed competition, then2.5Gig port will eventually come into useful play. I’ve had the AC68U for nearly 4 years and look what’s happened to speeds in that elapsed period. Naturally I would have to upgrade my PC equipment, but that’s all part of the fun.
But it's still only a single 2.5G LAN port. It's of little use unless you have multiple 1Gb connections simultaneously using a 2.5Gb capable device eg a NAS.

My use of "they" was merely to avoid the presumption of "he" or "she".


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