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Sephiroth 14-10-2021 20:52

Rising cost of living
 
Taking energy costs as the example, you couldn't make it up.

Paywall link and selected quote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-energy-bills/

Quote:

Mild winter ‘could protect households from soaring energy bills’

Kwasi Kwarteng shares internal long-term forecasts, which show wet and warner spells expected, with energy companies
The Weather Forecast can't even tell you if it's raining now.

This ridiculous minister is pinning his hopes on the weather forecast! Jeez.

Btw: what's this "internal long-term forecast"? Something we plebs don't see?




1andrew1 14-10-2021 21:05

Re: Rising cost of living
 
For individuals, higher energy prices will directly impact when the energy cap increases and people's fixed tariffs end. So for most people, I think they won't be so impacted until April 2022 directly.

However, they will be directly impacted by costs resulting from supply-side disruption such as this: Price of chicken set to rise, UK's largest supplier warns

Sephiroth 14-10-2021 21:25

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Andrew, you’re absolutely right.

But you chose to avoid confirming my view of Kwasi’s pronouncement!

1andrew1 14-10-2021 21:44

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36097422)
Andrew, you’re absolutely right.

But you chose to avoid confirming my view of Kwasi’s pronouncement!

I assume everyone agrees with your comments on his pronouncement so didn't want to credit his nonsense by considering it worthy of debate!

Hugh 14-10-2021 21:55

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Non-paywall link.

https://timesnewsnetwork.com/news/wo...-energy-storm/

Quote:

Kwarteng, whose portfolio includes energy, shared a briefing which said that “for the late winter period from January to February 2022, the most likely scenario is for an unsettled period of wet, windy and mild spells”.

The Met Office’s published longer-range forecast — used for contingency planning — only covers the next three months. It says that this period is “significantly more likely than normal to be mild”, although cold spells were possible, especially during November and December.

Jaymoss 14-10-2021 22:19

Re: Rising cost of living
 
It is always those with the least who suffer the most when things like this happen

Sephiroth 14-10-2021 22:27

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36097425)

Like I said, if the weather forecast can't even predict rain on the day it's raining, then why should we take any comfort from Kwasi's announcement?

Don't they have advisors who can tell the minister whether or not he'd be held up to ridicule?

TheDaddy 14-10-2021 22:44

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36097427)
Like I said, if the weather forecast can't even predict rain on the day it's raining, then why should we take any comfort from Kwasi's announcement?

Don't they have advisors who can tell the minister whether or not he'd be held up to ridicule?

Krazy Kwarteng is used to being ridiculed, he's a deeply unpleasant person who called the British workforce lazy in that crappy book so as far as I'm concerned he and his opinions are worthless, even the ones that make him look ridiculous

1andrew1 14-10-2021 23:26

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36097427)
Like I said, if the weather forecast can't even predict rain on the day it's raining, then why should we take any comfort from Kwasi's announcement?

The Br'Express is reporting predictions of snow in parts of the country soon
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weath...d-October-2021

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36097427)
Don't they have advisors who can tell the minister whether or not he'd be held up to ridicule?

Yes, but Johnson won't let them near Kwasi as he's doing a really good job at taking the heat off Johnson.

Hugh 14-10-2021 23:43

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36097427)
Like I said, if the weather forecast can't even predict rain on the day it's raining, then why should we take any comfort from Kwasi's announcement?

Don't they have advisors who can tell the minister whether or not he'd be held up to ridicule?

Loath as I am to defend him, I think he’s talking about medium to long term patterns of weather, rather than daily forecasts.

(Excuse me, but I’m off to scrub myself with disinfectant and a scouring pad so I can feel a semblance of "clean" again).

Carth 14-10-2021 23:55

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Chicken shortage?

As mentioned by the boss of a company that has made £millions, it not £billions, from employing foreign workers on low wages, has been at the center of at least two cases of quality control and working practices, and had more than one occasion where Covid ran riot.

There seems to be an underlying theme with these big companies that are now struggling . . .

*can you tell what it is yet?*

Hugh 15-10-2021 00:24

Re: Rising cost of living
 
You some sort of Commie? ;)

Carth 15-10-2021 00:27

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36097435)
You some sort of Commie? ;)

Damn . . busted*






*no pun intended Mr RAF chappy :D

Paul 15-10-2021 05:57

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36097421)
For individuals, higher energy prices will directly impact when the energy cap increases and people's fixed tariffs end. So for most people, I think they won't be so impacted until April 2022 directly.

You must be joking.
The price cap just went up, and a lot of fixed tariffs will end long before April 2022. I would think most people pay monthly, and those monthly payments are going to go up long before April 2022 as well. Only a small minority will not be impacted until that far away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36097421)
However, they will be directly impacted by costs resulting from supply-side disruption such as this: Price of chicken set to rise, UK's largest supplier warns

Priceless quote
Quote:

Ronald Kers, said that "in reality food is too cheap".
What a prick, maybe in his world, but not in mine.

Jaymoss 15-10-2021 09:10

Re: Rising cost of living
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36097439)
You must be joking.
The price cap just went up, and a lot of fixed tariffs will end long before April 2022. I would think most people pay monthly, and those monthly payments are going to go up long before April 2022 as well. Only a small minority will not be impacted until that far away.


Priceless quote

What a prick, maybe in his world, but not in mine.

There is no doubt the energy price rises and if indeed chicken and other food prices increase my standard of living will drop a fair bit. That little bit of spare in my budget each month has dropped considerably. I have already had to change how I shop from weekly to fortnightly and the food I am buying is lower quality than before due to costs now


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