Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35857936)

Why wouldn't we continue to welcome Polish immigrants? The campaign was fought on controlling immigration, not ending it. Only the most rabid remainiacs are still trying to paint the leave campaign as racist and isolationist. Do try to keep up.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35857950)

It looks to me like you're more interested in playing with words than seriously discussing the issue. Surely you can see the difference between a speech on the UK's future immigration policy (which this wasn't) and a goodwill speech delivered by the UK's chief diplomat (which this was)?

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35857957)

It looks to me that you are more interested in just being patronising :) (again)

OK, let's see then. Please post again when we get the official Government policy that controls and caps Polish immgration ..

Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35857933)

Given the amount of poor planning and financial waste we have had from government Boris can still welcome the next Polish generation because they have skills, are cheaper and are more willing to work.

Let's not forget that at one time we used to be a major manufacturing country until we priced ourselves out of the market allowing China, Taiwan etc to take over. If those at the top had been more willing to share the excessive payments made to them with the workers we probably still would be.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35857937)

Worrying developments from down Brussels way :shocked: :shocked:

http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/...layed-to-2026/

Via southend obviously :erm: :D

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35857984)

That would seem to conflict with this:

"The only formal process for leaving the EU comes through Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union (TEU). The government of the withdrawing state notifies the European Council of its wish of leaving the EU. This triggers the negotiation process around the transitional arrangement and also any future arrangement between the EU and the leaving state. Two years is allotted for the negotiations, during which all EU laws continue to apply to the leaving state. If no agreement is reached after two years, all EU rules and rights cease to apply to the withdrawing country – unless the period is extended by unanimous agreement of the other 27 states."

http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/...at-comes-next/

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35857979)

Erm, in the 60s and 70s the pay differential between owners/senior managers was much less than it is now, and it was the fact that the overseas manufacturers had cheaper labour and cheaper raw materials which made the price differential so much; that and the fact we had terrible quality control, and thought we still had an Empire that had to buy from us, rather than producing and exporting their own goods.

We, as a country (both politicians, industries, and workers) did not adapt to a changing world, tried to live on our laurels, and got left behind...

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35857988)

Duck that low flying satire, dude ... :D

Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35857990)

Unfortunately, we are still making the same mistakes because as you say the pay differential now is higher than it was in the past. We have actually learnt nothing.

Is it any wonder that we have a massive deficit because we, as a country, are not planning financial reductions or making any real effort to live within our means.

Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35857960)

The government isn't going to publish an immigration policy that specifically restricts numbers of Polish workers

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35858054)

I am afraid that is exactly what the 37% of the electorate who voted us out of the EU are expecting. Controlled immigration means exactly that: a cap on people who are able to move here from foreign countries which would include Poland.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35858059)

No it's not ,we expect limits on immigration not limits on Polish immigration

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35857730)

The Conservative government are in an unenviable position. Is the plan to turn the UK into a giant tax haven economy to retain these businesses, which will have horrendous effects for equality of wealth and income. At what price 'control'?

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35857775)

If you read for what Japan have asked for (other than EEA etc) then we can see the beginnings of a possible deal that doesn't involve the EEA.

Japanese companies have asked the EU for temporary passporting rights whilst they relocate (assuming no EEA). I think we could have a soft-brexit approach whereby we can limit EU migration almost immediately after exit and in return get some sort of trade deal for goods whilst services are given 'x years' free access which slowly gets wound down. So for a few years we'll have both limits on migration and be in the single-market with the single market benefits getting slowly removed.

It would stop any dramatic shock to both the EU and the UK whilst the EU get a lot of the big services firms and we limit migration.