Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

The mans a utter buffoon if he thinks he can live on that as water , gas , electricity and council tax have to be paid and that's before food is put on the table.

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

Come on, are you insinuating the millionaire Duncan Smith is out of touch ;)

Re: Poor affected - The Rich not affected again - why?
 

I suggest that, since Arthur has issues with the effects of mass migration, he takes it up with his mates @ SameOldLabour* who opened the floodgates in the pursuit of social engineering.



* The party he'll probably be voting for again at the next election. :rolleyes:

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

But hence 30 years on he has become bloated on the arrogance of being one of those many millionaire politicians who is totally out of touch with normal people who have to exist on a hand to mouth day to day existence.

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

A hell of a lot has changed since he was claiming.

The thing is after food/gas/electric/water/CT/TV licence even if its just a portable the claimant as said still has to maintain the claim be able to look for work be presentable for interviews travel around all on £7 a day. Its £3 just for a return bus ticket to town if I had to go to Coventry it would cost over the £7 in one shot

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

Indeed, I don't think him doing it for a week - even two or three would prove anything. Make him do a month or two and we'll see.

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

I get slightly confused with threads like this.

On one hand you have a number of posters here that think the cuts and I will say attack on the most needy is seen as a welcome thing. (Get them all off their lazy backsides). Yet when you see it like this it kind of changes things a bit. Where are the usual posters defending these cuts to say that you can live on £7 a day which is what they are championing afterall.

Or have I got this wrong? Afterall all I see is 'we can't afford it anymore, the last Govmt blah blah blah' stuff, yet ignore the actual realities. And the term benefit claiment now means one thing regardless of what benefit you're claiming. It also seems like a conscience cleansing comment when you hear 'but those that need help should get it' eg, the sick and disabled. But the truth isn't like that, we just end up as collateral damage, unfortunate, or just ignored. We are bundled with the scroungers and the scammers there is no difference, we're all in this together.

I would say that if you're claiming child allowance then you're a benefit claiment but it doesn't have the same effect does it. Why not, afterall those that are on 30k who have moaned when that they could lose their pitance when their partners are on 50k-60k and above seems to have been listened to more than those that are struggling on £7 a day. Annoying that.

The ignorance surrounding this benefit subject is astounding, I'm sure if I say that I claim ESA, then automatically the same people will think that I claim every benefit there is and on top of that have an easy life compared to the average worker. It's so far from the truth than you've been fed to believe, it is sad really.

As for IDS, the words rot in hell seems way too light for the likes of him.

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

this is the very reason you see me fight so hard on these threads they say they know the reality some say they experienced it but those that do so it was a long time ago

They have all fell for the governments propaganda dude the benefit claimant is an ideal scapegoat

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

I think the general feeling and thoughts from many who agree to all these cuts involving a particular group in society is 'as long as it doesn't involve me' 'ignorance' 'as long as it's them and not me again' and more 'ignorance'

it's a form of self protection in the way of agreeing to what's going on thinking that they'll leave me alone if I stand by and watch.

what they don't realise is that they are next. Dave is going to be fair and take around 25% or £70 per week from their pockets too. as a punishment for their ignorance in seeing their fellow man suffer :)

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

I reckon he could do it... as his missus is absolutely loaded....

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

Rather than IDS trying to actually live the life he claimed was doable, and no one believing that he was actually doing it, I would be happy if he would just set his minions to actually research how it could be done and then publish a workable blueprint for all the poor sods who are actually trying to survive on such a small amount. At least that way what he says is possible can be challenged

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

yes i sing it Let,s get Muppet Man I D S to prove it:mad:

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

Ah I do love a good old fashioned burning torch mob thread. :rolleyes:

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

Is that all you can offer. I'm glad you've got it all off your chest. :rolleyes:

Re: Thousands sign petition to get IDS to prove anyone can live on £7 a day
 

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, so I don't imagine he's going to lose any sleep over an article in the Daily Mirror, a politically-motivated petition and the signatures of a few thousand Labour activists.

IDS was asked directly on the Today programme if he could live on £53. If he'd said 'no' then the Mirror would be screaming in fury this morning and there'd be a petition demanding that the government abandon benefit changes that they admit are unfair and impossible to live with. He said 'yes' and the Mirror is screaming in fury this morning and demanding that he prove it, which is a bit awkward for them because he has already proven his ability to live on benefits when he left the army. That's not good enough for the usual suspects though, they say that years ago "things were different" and they demand proof that he could still do it today, but IMO that's just a thinly disguised attack based on envy of someone who has made a success of his life.

Just face it everyone, IDS has been there, done that, couldn't afford the tee shirt and now has a well-paid job in which he has to take hard decisions and get personal abuse as a result. He isn't going to give up his salary, his mansion or his nice car. There's no point. If you don't believe his stint on benefits at the beginning of his civilian career proves anything, then you won't believe a daft spectacle sponsored by the Mirror proves anything either.