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Where were the rest of the family? He was ok for 10 months without benefits, and the real issue appears to be the bailiffs due to arrive. Quote:
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This is why we have a welfare state, it failed again and continues to fail many. |
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So the DWP tried to make contact and he kept ignoring them, so they cancelled his payments. How is that the DWP fault? If he had been in touch with them and they cancelled then I could understand.
Did he not have a carer? Why did none of his family sort it out for him? This is just typical government bashing. On this occasion, they did nothing wrong. |
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To the unsympathetic who seem to think the DWP carry no blame
Man on benefits for metal illness goes quiet and does not turn up to meetings They try to get in touch and still quiet They pay 2 visits and get nothing They stop his benefits He dies Surely the compassionate would see that there is obviously something seriously wrong here and instead of stopping benefits try every means necessary to get to the bottom of what was wrong. Including getting in touch with family or even call the police to check to see if there was an emergency. Stopping someone with long term illnesses benefits makes it impossible to live surely no one would think "Oh he has to be ok then and won the lottery or something" People with mental illness often ignore people do not answer doors and isolate themselves . It is a very common symptom. Not getting an answer at the door does not mean they must be ok and able to support themselves now |
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However those dealing in the area of social services are often overworked and underpaid with huge workloads of people needing care. |
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The onus is on the claimant to prove their claim, always has been. |
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In fact thinking about it it should always be on the DWP to prove people fit or unfit cuz otherwise people are treated guilty until proven innocent by the DWP |
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A key DWP philosophy is that being in work helps with feeling down. It was said he was ok, when with his grandkids. Therefore the "distraction" of being in work, should've helped. |
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I bet you are the type of person who tells his down friends to "pull yourselves together" |
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It was the family who said he was ok when with others. That clearly demonstrates an ability to "pull himself together". If he had avoided all contact with his family, that might be a different matter. |
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Firstly no it does not clearly demonstrate anything this was only family and his grand kids. Plus he might have been acting ok another classic symptom of mental illness is hiding it from family and those close to you The guy had obviously took a turn for the worse as he isolated himself long enough to die alone waiting to be found by the bailiffs As I said you clearly have no idea about mental illness at all I can only guess but the added stress of the review along with other factors triggered a worsening of his symptoms. |
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End of the day the guy was clearly to sick to cope without benefits as he died without them so whatever anyone says the DWP stopping his benefits contributed to his death and the decision to stop them was wrong
It is one thing sanctioning the unemployed for not seeking work when they should but sanctioning the mentally ill is clearly dangerous |
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