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Paul	27-09-2021 00:02

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

Maybe we should ask why we dont have government storage facilities instead of just private, who are perfectly entitled to shut them down as they see fit.

1andrew1

27-09-2021 00:12

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36094734)

Maybe we should ask why we dont have government storage facilities instead of just private, who are perfectly entitled to shut them down as they see fit.

Because we made the decision to privatise them.

Carth

27-09-2021 01:29

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

I made no such decision . . did you? ;)

Anyway, when 3/4 of the UK is owned by foreign companies, what can you expect when things get tough :D

jfman

27-09-2021 02:14

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36094734)

Maybe we should ask why we dont have government storage facilities instead of just private, who are perfectly entitled to shut them down as they see fit.

Well yes indeed. That's the crux of the question why we allow the private sector to extract profits under the guise of fake competition when the state (and thus the taxpayer) is underpinning the entire risk anyway!

I never thought we'd agree on these forums but as Carth, papa and I discussed recently infinite monkey theorem does leave scope for many things however unlikely.

Tinky

28-09-2021 08:12

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

We were with Avro Energy who are being taken over by Octopus, we were paying £72 per month, we have now been quoted £138.63pm, that is almost double! Shocking considering we live in a small 2 bed bungalow.:(

Does anyone know if I have to wait to be supplied by Octopus or can I switch to another supplier before then?

Mr K	28-09-2021 08:52

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

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Originally Posted by Tinky (Post 36094951)

Best to wait for for the Octopus switch. Last thing you need is to be dealing with 3 companies ! Unlikely you'll find much cheaper elsewhere, fixed rates tend to be more expensive than variable atm.

1andrew1

28-09-2021 08:53

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

Here's what Ofgem says

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Customers of Avro Energy will be contacted over the coming days about the changes. If customers wish to switch supplier, they can shop around but are advised to wait until the transfer has been completed. Customers will not be charged exit fees if they decide to switch to another supplier.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/cy/publicat...rs-avro-energy

Unfortunately, I don't think there's going to be any amazing energy deals out there at the moment until wholesale prices fall. Time to buy shares in loft insulation, solar panel and curtain manufacturers.

Tinky

28-09-2021 09:12

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36094957)

Best to wait for for the Octopus switch. Last thing you need is to be dealing with 3 companies ! Unlikely you'll find much cheaper elsewhere, fixed rates tend to be more expensive than variable atm.

Too late Mr K, took best deal from Bulb at £107 per month. Even that is £35 per month more.

1andrew1

29-09-2021 11:40

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36094749)

I made no such decision . . did you? ;)

Anyway, when 3/4 of the UK is owned by foreign companies, what can you expect when things get tough :D

In this instance, the culprit was Centrica aka British Gas.

nomadking

29-09-2021 12:42

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

Germany has a large independently owned storage capacity, but their prices are also going up.

Hugh	29-09-2021 12:48

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36094749)

I made no such decision . . did you? ;)

Anyway, when 3/4 of the UK is owned by foreign companies, what can you expect when things get tough :D

You were close - it’s actually 1.3%… ;)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=%2fb...nesses2019.xls

1andrew1

29-09-2021 13:28

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36095129)

Germany has a large independently owned storage capacity, but their prices are also going up.

Life's not binary old chap. Prices tend to go up over time. The question is the rate by which they go up. Find that and you've made a point.

joglynne

29-09-2021 15:45

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

Igloo Energy, Symbio Energy and Enstroga cease trading

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Igloo Energy, Symbio Energy and Enstroga which combined have more than 230,000 customers, have become the latest energy providers to cease trading – making a total of nine suppliers to go bust this month. If you're a customer of these failed firms, your energy supply will continue and credit balances are protected. But DON'T switch now – sit tight and wait until your new supplier has contacted you.

Households supplied by Igloo Energy (179,000 customers), Symbio (48,000 customers) and Enstroga (6,000 customers) will be transferred to a yet-to-be-announced new supplier. In the meantime, your supply will continue as normal and energy regulator Ofgem says any credit balances will be protected

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...OuqGZTOvrh-5KI

nomadking

29-09-2021 16:59

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36095134)

Life's not binary old chap. Prices tend to go up over time. The question is the rate by which they go up. Find that and you've made a point.

Well it's a lot more than inflation, then they've got the 20% increase in their carbon tax to look forward to next year.

heero_yuy

29-09-2021 17:01

Re: Avro and Green Cease Trading

Probably a good time to invest in companies making thermal undies. :D